IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2012-04-06 #tryton log beginning Fri Apr 6 00:00:01 CEST 2012
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2012-04-06 13:33 <MarKsaitis> does tryton have ecommerce?
2012-04-06 13:33 <MarKsaitis> help
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2012-04-06 13:48 <cedk> MarKsaitis: see:
2012-04-06 13:49 <MarKsaitis> ok
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> I have this list to choose from:
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> xtuple postbooks
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> mmwebz
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> erp5
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> dolibarr
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> openerp
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> tryton - openerp fork
2012-04-06 13:50 <MarKsaitis> I wan't it all free, tryton seems quite a good option, dunno any good reasons why tryton
2012-04-06 13:51 <MarKsaitis> erp5 seems professional and strong, but thats only from what that website says of theirs =)
2012-04-06 13:52 <MarKsaitis> cedk, :)
2012-04-06 13:52 <cedk> MarKsaitis: the reasons depends of your needs
2012-04-06 13:52 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: what do you mean by commerce exactly ? what is your need ?
2012-04-06 13:53 <MarKsaitis> well, just an app where customers can order some service from the web page I suppose. something simple
2012-04-06 13:54 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: what would you prefer ? an integrated e-commerce system or an integration with an existing e-commerce system ?
2012-04-06 13:54 <MarKsaitis> doesn't matter to me much. As soon as I can do what I said, then it's o
2012-04-06 13:54 <MarKsaitis> ok
2012-04-06 13:57 <MarKsaitis> I am planning tu run a small company to provide IT support for other small companies, design websites, source and setup some solutions, computer equipment, licensing, telecommunications and such
2012-04-06 13:57 <MarKsaitis> and I am looking for ERP system for myself
2012-04-06 13:57 <MarKsaitis> sharoonthomas, cedk
2012-04-06 13:58 <MarKsaitis> would magento and tryton be a good option for me on ubuntu 11.04?
2012-04-06 13:58 <MarKsaitis> ubuntu server, windows clients
2012-04-06 13:58 <cedk> MarKsaitis: I think Tryton could be a good option
2012-04-06 13:59 <cedk> MarKsaitis: don't know enough about magento
2012-04-06 13:59 <MarKsaitis> any reasons why xtuple postbooks isnt good enough?
2012-04-06 13:59 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: understood what you mean and I am sure triton will be a good cadidate
2012-04-06 13:59 <MarKsaitis> ok
2012-04-06 14:00 <MarKsaitis> I think I should give it a go. How old is this project and is it performing well?
2012-04-06 14:02 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: tuple post books is powerful too, but I have always found it a pain to write modules for and not in one of my language choices
2012-04-06 14:02 <MarKsaitis> what lang is it in?
2012-04-06 14:02 <cedk> MarKsaitis:
2012-04-06 14:02 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: also postgresql/db layer is something i prefer to interact with an ORM rather than with raw queries
2012-04-06 14:03 <MarKsaitis> what db do you recommend for tryton? and is it hard to set the server up on ubuntu?
2012-04-06 14:03 <MarKsaitis> thanx cedk
2012-04-06 14:04 <cedk> MarKsaitis: postgresql
2012-04-06 14:05 <MarKsaitis> is that a good choice over mysql? I think I used both, but quite a while ago
2012-04-06 14:06 <MarKsaitis> only 3 commiters?
2012-04-06 14:07 <cedk> MarKsaitis: MySQL has really poor performance when used for transactions
2012-04-06 14:07 <MarKsaitis> does it
2012-04-06 14:08 <MarKsaitis> do I need desktop environment on my server to run tryton?
2012-04-06 14:09 <cedk> MarKsaitis: 3 new commiters
2012-04-06 14:09 <MarKsaitis> cedk, ok =) I thought so
2012-04-06 14:09 <cedk> MarKsaitis: no
2012-04-06 14:09 <MarKsaitis> all looking good
2012-04-06 14:09 <MarKsaitis> ok, I want to have it on my ubuntu 11.04, noticed there is no package for it in default repos
2012-04-06 14:10 <MarKsaitis> or it is perhaps named different
2012-04-06 14:10 <MarKsaitis> I wan't the full feature install I guess
2012-04-06 14:11 <cedk> MarKsaitis:
2012-04-06 14:11 <MarKsaitis> big difference between 1.6 and 2.2? As i have natty, not precise
2012-04-06 14:11 <cedk> MarKsaitis: 1.5 years of development ;-)
2012-04-06 14:12 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: its extremely simple to install tryton
2012-04-06 14:12 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: especially on ubuntu
2012-04-06 14:12 <MarKsaitis> I guess it is. I bet 1.6 version is old and not recommended?
2012-04-06 14:12 <sharoonthomas> MarKsaitis: it is better to install from PyPI
2012-04-06 14:13 <MarKsaitis> pypi? what is that? I believe I wan't the latest stable. 1.6 looks old to me
2012-04-06 14:13 <nicoe> ACTION think ubuntu should stop with its stupid names 'Precise Pangolin' SRSLY ?
2012-04-06 14:13 <sharoonthomas> @nicoe +1
2012-04-06 14:14 <cedk> MarKsaitis: PyPI is the standard package index for Python
2012-04-06 14:15 <cedk> MarKsaitis:
2012-04-06 14:15 <MarKsaitis> anyways, what should I get? version 1.6 or 2.2? I wan't it latest stable on 11.04 ubuntu. How do I proceed?
2012-04-06 14:15 <sharoonthomas> @MarKsaitis couldn't find a good example of how to install tryton an a virtualenv, i will write a gist for you
2012-04-06 14:15 <MarKsaitis> is there a wiki I can follow?
2012-04-06 14:17 <cedk> MarKsaitis:
2012-04-06 14:17 <cedk> MarKsaitis: but it is perhaps not up to date
2012-04-06 14:17 <MarKsaitis> dunno what gist is, but it would be nice to have a wiki page I could just follow to install latest stable tryton with all modules + sql server on a minimal ubuntu 11.04
2012-04-06 14:18 <MarKsaitis> should I just follow it then?
2012-04-06 14:25 <MarKsaitis> cedk, sharoonthomas that google guide tells me to just install what I have in the repos. Which is 1.6. Is that not too old? Do I care? Do I not wan't 2.2?
2012-04-06 14:25 <MarKsaitis> I wan't to use it, but im stuck
2012-04-06 14:25 <cedk> there is also:
2012-04-06 14:26 <cedk> MarKsaitis: if you have the time, it is always better to have the latest version
2012-04-06 14:26 <MarKsaitis> the question is, how do I get the latest version =))
2012-04-06 14:29 <cedk> MarKsaitis: there is soo much way to install an application that it is complicated to tell you
2012-04-06 14:29 <cedk> MarKsaitis: Tryton is packaged using the standard way of Python
2012-04-06 14:30 <cedk> MarKsaitis: you can use tools like easy_install or pip
2012-04-06 14:30 <cedk> MarKsaitis: you can fecth the archive on and run python install
2012-04-06 14:30 <cedk> MarKsaitis: you can use your distirbution package utils
2012-04-06 14:31 <cedk> ...
2012-04-06 14:31 <MarKsaitis> I wan't a way which works + is easy and fast + has abilities to update
2012-04-06 14:32 <MarKsaitis> the problem with distribution package utils is that stupid distro only gives version 1.6. So thats crap. I am afraid of other methods as I might run into this stupid dependency nightmare like I always do and which never ends
2012-04-06 14:32 <MarKsaitis> :)
2012-04-06 14:33 <nicoe> So use your distribution packages
2012-04-06 14:33 <MarKsaitis> cant, they give 1.6... what is the point of having something old and which never updates the bugs etc
2012-04-06 14:35 <nicoe> Then either you update your distribution or you use the other methods at your own risks
2012-04-06 14:36 <MarKsaitis> ;]
2012-04-06 14:36 <MarKsaitis> If I download the full version and launch
2012-04-06 14:37 <MarKsaitis> will that work fine on my 11.04? Or are there any dependencies I need to watch out for?
2012-04-06 14:37 <cedk> MarKsaitis: for dependencies they are define in each INSTALL file
2012-04-06 14:37 <MarKsaitis> I bet I will run in to dependency rubbish, will I not?
2012-04-06 14:38 <cedk> MarKsaitis: many people use Tryton on ubuntu so I guess all dependencies are available
2012-04-06 14:39 <MarKsaitis> well I mean, mabye all available, but some might be versions which are too small?
2012-04-06 14:41 <nicoe> Why don't you update your distribution ?
2012-04-06 14:44 <MarKsaitis> im in openvz
2012-04-06 14:45 <cedk> MarKsaitis: I think the simplest for you will be to use the pip way
2012-04-06 14:46 <cedk> MarKsaitis: create a user for Tryton, run pip install --user trytond
2012-04-06 14:46 <cedk> MarKsaitis: it will install it in ~/.local/lib/pythonx.y/site-packages/
2012-04-06 14:46 <cedk> MarKsaitis: and the executable will be in ~/.local/bin/trytond
2012-04-06 14:46 <MarKsaitis> Im asking my vps provider to provide ubuntu 12.04, so that might help me
2012-04-06 14:47 <cedk> MarKsaitis: you will have to create a config file that you will give via the -c
2012-04-06 14:47 <MarKsaitis> is ~/. under user?
2012-04-06 14:47 <cedk> MarKsaitis: after that you can install Tryton modules with: pip install --user trytond_xxx
2012-04-06 14:47 <cedk> MarKsaitis: don't understand the question
2012-04-06 14:48 <MarKsaitis> I think that is too much mess for me :) Id better update and do it the OS way
2012-04-06 17:32 <dfamorato> cedk: ping
2012-04-06 17:34 <cedk> dfamorato: pong
2012-04-06 17:43 <dfamorato> cedk: I will reply to you questions on gsoc in a few
2012-04-06 17:44 <dfamorato> cedk: I will also apply for another one.. which one you prefer ? PyPi or FDOT ?
2012-04-06 17:48 <cedk> dfamorato: fodt
2012-04-06 17:49 <dfamorato> cedk: Ok... so the goal is to add FODT to Relatorio ?
2012-04-06 17:49 <cedk> dfamorato: yes
2012-04-06 17:50 <dfamorato> cedk: For which file types ? text and spreadsheets ?
2012-04-06 17:51 <cedk> dfamorato: all of them
2012-04-06 17:53 <dfamorato> cedk: hun.. I see... if I use lxml it's ok ?
2012-04-06 17:54 <cedk> dfamorato: relatorio already use lxml
2012-04-06 17:55 <dfamorato> cedk: awesome, so I will not introduce new dependency and I already work with lxml... so i will think I will go that route

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