IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2013-04-30 #tryton log beginning Tue Apr 30 00:00:02 CEST 2013
2013-04-30 12:04 <sisalp> hello, I'm looking at 2.8 dependencies. Which function uses Levenshtein ?
2013-04-30 12:04 <sisalp> and why is openssl no longer required ?
2013-04-30 12:07 <cedk> sisalp: Levenshtien is used for global search to order by best matching
2013-04-30 12:08 <sisalp> cedk: excellent
2013-04-30 12:08 <cedk> sisalp: and pyOpenSSL is replaced with the builtins of Python
2013-04-30 12:10 <sisalp> cedk: thank you
2013-04-30 16:19 <elmo40> can i use Tryton as a form of CRM ?
2013-04-30 16:20 <cedk> elmo40: if you want, but CRM could mean a lot of things
2013-04-30 16:22 <elmo40> customer relations management
2013-04-30 16:22 <elmo40> doesnt the online demo work?
2013-04-30 16:22 <elmo40> i get a blank page
2013-04-30 16:25 <elmo40> basically... i am a small business owner. i am mainly a b2b company dealing with automotive shop equipment. i would like to have a laptop in the service truck that will keep updated customer info (i am a one man show)
2013-04-30 16:25 <elmo40> will this do it for me? print up invoices, keep track of inventory and update customer data?
2013-04-30 16:26 <elmo40> the main page says yes but i can not get into the demo page to play with it
2013-04-30 16:27 <corro> elmo40: you'll need the Tryton client for your OS:
2013-04-30 16:27 <corro> elmo40: there is no web client
2013-04-30 16:27 <elmo40> debian has an older version in their repo.
2013-04-30 16:27 <elmo40> 2.2.3 i believe
2013-04-30 16:27 <elmo40> is it tricky to compile?
2013-04-30 16:28 <udono> elmo40: maybe you look at ?
2013-04-30 16:29 <elmo40> nice. thanks :)
2013-04-30 16:34 <cedk> elmo40: Tryton seems to fit your requirements
2013-04-30 16:35 <cedk> corro: except if you go to :-)
2013-04-30 16:35 <elmo40> it is going to be a mobile work station with invoice printing on the spot:)
2013-04-30 16:35 <elmo40> getting paid today is better then waiting in the mail
2013-04-30 16:36 <cedk> elmo40: of course you should run the server on it if you don't always have internet access
2013-04-30 16:37 <elmo40> indeed
2013-04-30 16:37 <elmo40> are there many improvements from 2.2 to 2.8?
2013-04-30 16:37 <corro> cedk: you're one son of a gun xD that's not fully working though or is it?
2013-04-30 16:38 <elmo40> i think i can test with 2.2 for now on my home pc and if that works the way i want to then i will get the latest installed on the laptop
2013-04-30 16:39 <cedk> elmo40: 2.2 demo server is down
2013-04-30 16:39 <cedk> corro: it is just the last dev version
2013-04-30 16:39 <elmo40> 2.6 is stable?
2013-04-30 16:40 <cedk> elmo40: what do you mean?
2013-04-30 16:40 <elmo40> this page has 2.2 and 2.6
2013-04-30 16:40 <elmo40> should i get 2.6? or are there more modules for 2.2?
2013-04-30 16:41 <elmo40> i was just wondering if this was like apache and apache2
2013-04-30 16:41 <elmo40> having an older, though still updated, version along with a newer
2013-04-30 16:41 <cedk> elmo40: every new version is better
2013-04-30 16:42 <elmo40> :)
2013-04-30 16:43 <cedk> elmo40: at least it is the goal
2013-04-30 16:44 <elmo40> indeed
2013-04-30 16:45 <elmo40> ok. running the client 2.6
2013-04-30 16:45 <elmo40> loged into the demo server
2013-04-30 16:45 <udono> cedk: Nice link for the web client!
2013-04-30 16:47 <cedk> udono: it was the easter-egg :-)
2013-04-30 16:47 <cedk> I will try to keep it up to date as far as the dev is compatible with 2.8
2013-04-30 16:48 <udono> cedk: I guess nobody found it ;-)
2013-04-30 16:50 <udono> cedk: nicoe, bechamel: Webclient looks very promising! When did you expect a showcase of X2Many fields?
2013-04-30 16:51 <cedk> udono: normally during this month
2013-04-30 16:51 <udono> cedk: Cool, thanks!
2013-04-30 16:51 <cedk> udono: the internal is already there, it is just about the widget
2013-04-30 16:53 <nicoe> udono: in fact I have a small problem with the X2M but the code is almost there.
2013-04-30 16:54 <udono> wizards are working, cool
2013-04-30 16:54 <elmo40> so far it looks like just what i need :)
2013-04-30 16:54 <elmo40> how come i have never heard of this before?
2013-04-30 16:55 <elmo40> i have been looking for 3 months for a CRM or mobile invoicing software
2013-04-30 16:59 <nicoe> elmo40: we do not make too much noise, it's a pitty …
2013-04-30 17:00 <elmo40> i know
2013-04-30 17:00 <elmo40> pity for me i have wasted 3 months
2013-04-30 17:00 <nicoe> I guess even the word about the new release is not spread effeciently
2013-04-30 17:01 <nicoe> AFAIK only linuxfr has talked about it
2013-04-30 17:01 <elmo40> i am in Canada
2013-04-30 17:02 <elmo40> what is the xml-rpc in the config file?
2013-04-30 17:02 <cedk> some years ago, we got some news on a spanish slashdot-like
2013-04-30 17:03 <cedk> elmo40: it is a second communication protocol
2013-04-30 17:03 <elmo40> ok. so not needed?
2013-04-30 17:03 <elmo40> as for timezone, what do i put if i am -5GMT ?
2013-04-30 17:03 <cedk> elmo40: no if you don't plan to interconnect with other software
2013-04-30 17:04 <cedk> elmo40: the best is to put UTC
2013-04-30 17:04 <elmo40> will the invoice times be my computer time?
2013-04-30 17:07 <cedk> elmo40: ha no, not necessary
2013-04-30 17:07 <cedk> elmo40: indeed you can set the invoice date on the invoice
2013-04-30 17:08 <cedk> elmo40: but the system will default set to the UTC date
2013-04-30 17:08 <cedk> elmo40: indeed UTC is good if you plan to move or have usage over different timezone
2013-04-30 17:09 <cedk> elmo40: UTC will also be needed for webclient
2013-04-30 17:11 <cedk> elmo40: by the way, if you are french speaking canadian, there is #tryton-fr channel also
2013-04-30 17:12 <elmo40> i could, but french is secondary ;)
2013-04-30 17:12 <elmo40> i would be google translating half the conversation, lol
2013-04-30 17:13 <elmo40> and no, i wont be using over multiple time zones... canada is huge and ontario only has one time zone, shared with quebec.
2013-04-30 17:19 <sharoonthomas> cedk: b-crypt has a BSD license. are you aware of any license issue with it being used in trytond ?
2013-04-30 17:21 <cedk> sharoonthomas: I don't think
2013-04-30 17:21 <sharoonthomas> cedk: ok
2013-04-30 17:21 <cedk> sharoonthomas: as far as it is not embeded in Tryton and license changed
2013-04-30 17:22 <sharoonthomas> cedk: have you already started work on issue3169 ?
2013-04-30 17:24 <cedk> sharoonthomas: If I did not change the status: no
2013-04-30 17:49 <sharoonthomas> cedk: another question regarding the crypt implementation: do you want to implement another field like fields.Sha ?
2013-04-30 17:50 <cedk> sharoonthomas: why not
2013-04-30 17:50 <sharoonthomas> s/crypt/b-crypt
2013-04-30 17:54 <sharoonthomas> cedk: the issue I see if we do that is, bcrypt.hashpw takes two arguments, the password and a salt generated using bcrypt.salt
2013-04-30 17:54 <sharoonthomas> cedk: and Field.sql_format where we expect the conversion to take place only provides 1 value (the value of the password field in this case)
2013-04-30 17:55 <cedk> sharoonthomas: so it must be a Function field
2013-04-30 18:08 <mrechte> Hello. I am not clear on how tax lines are generated for an invoice. For instance an invoice has two lines that generate tow tax lines. When posting it seems to me that account_tax_line has got the wrong data: 3 rows are inserted. Is that normal ?
2013-04-30 18:11 <cedk> mrechte: it is impossible to answer, we don't have enough information
2013-04-30 18:13 <cedk> mrechte: do both taxes have codes ?
2013-04-30 18:17 <mrechte> cedk: In account_move_line, line 518 generated (tax) line 520, line 519 generated line 521. In account_tax_lines I have 3 rows with move_line values: 518, 520 and 521
2013-04-30 18:18 <cedk> mrechte: I don't understand
2013-04-30 18:25 <cedk> mrechte: if you don't point to what you think is wrong nobody will look at it
2013-04-30 18:27 <mrechte> cedk: I would have expected 2 rows with move_line values: 518 and 519.
2013-04-30 18:29 <cedk> mrechte: I guess you have a base code
2013-04-30 18:34 <cedk> mrechte: or tax code
2013-04-30 18:34 <cedk> mrechte: tax lines are generated if there is a code
2013-04-30 18:35 <elmo40> where do i change my tax code? we dont use VAT in Canada, we have HST
2013-04-30 18:36 <cedk> elmo40: you can put your code in the vat field
2013-04-30 18:36 <elmo40> but it still says VAT, not HST
2013-04-30 18:37 <cedk> elmo40: who cares?
2013-04-30 18:37 <cedk> elmo40: you can change the report template if you want
2013-04-30 18:41 <mrechte> cedk: sorry, I don't understand the doc regarding tax. It seems complex. Is there some more underground info ?
2013-04-30 18:44 <elmo40> where is the template stored? id like to add my company logo and such :)
2013-04-30 18:48 <sharoonthomas> cedk: i see that the Sha field supports search but b-crypt is not going to do that. Is that fine ?
2013-04-30 19:08 <elmo40> umm... this may sound trivial but how do i create my first database? i read the page for tryton-server and said to do a 'postgres -c "creatuser......." but the output says postgres is unknown program.
2013-04-30 19:08 <elmo40> i have postgres9.1 installed, am i missing something?
2013-04-30 19:10 <plantian> cedk: I tested 2.8 and it seems significantly faster, I will try to update the mailing list when I get it deployed.
2013-04-30 19:10 <plantian> cedk: Probably like 5-10 times faster.
2013-04-30 19:13 <elmo40> faster then 2.6?
2013-04-30 19:15 <plantian> elmo40: yes but I think it might just be that my data causes problems in 2.6
2013-04-30 19:15 <plantian> elmo40: I'm not sure if others will notice, but I definitely noticed.
2013-04-30 19:16 <elmo40> i wish i could start my own!
2013-04-30 19:16 <plantian> elmo40: I usually do createdb --owner=USER --encoding=unicode DBNAME
2013-04-30 19:17 <plantian> elmo40: Or actually, sorry, I create a user first: createuser -U postgres USER
2013-04-30 19:17 <elmo40> i opened Neso and created a new database. now it asks for login and password. i have not created those yet.
2013-04-30 19:18 <elmo40> should it be a superuser? ;)
2013-04-30 19:18 <plantian> elmo40: I only user the command line, no superuser and does not need to create roles.
2013-04-30 19:19 <elmo40> hrmm... more errors :(
2013-04-30 19:19 <elmo40> createuser: could not connect to database postgres: FATAL: Peer authentication
2013-04-30 19:19 <elmo40> failed for user "postgres"
2013-04-30 19:20 <elmo40> im, gonna try another method
2013-04-30 19:21 <elmo40> only a client for Windows? I guess it would have to connect to a remote (linux) server?
2013-04-30 19:21 <plantian> elmo40: ok yeah sorry, i think to use command line postgres you need local permission to postgres.
2013-04-30 19:22 <elmo40> what is Neso?
2013-04-30 19:34 <cedk> sharoonthomas: I guess
2013-04-30 19:34 <cedk> plantian: great
2013-04-30 19:35 <cedk> elmo40: you can find report in Adminstration>User Interface>Actions>Reports
2013-04-30 19:36 <cedk> elmo40: Neso is client and server bundle in one using SQLite
2013-04-30 20:28 <elmo40> cedk: when i open neso and Create a new database, what is the username and login?
2013-04-30 20:28 <elmo40> when i create the database it only asks for password
2013-04-30 20:37 <cedk> elmo40: admin and the password you set
2013-04-30 20:46 <elmo40> is Party the word you use for Customer?
2013-04-30 20:47 <elmo40> i see no module for 'customer data'
2013-04-30 20:58 <cedk> elmo40: yes customer and supplier

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