IRC logs of #tryton for Wednesday, 2017-04-26

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Wed Apr 26 00:00:01 CEST 2017
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2017-04-26 09:22 <pokoli> cedk: yes, I will take a look at the issue. Sorry for the delay but I've been some days out of the oficee
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2017-04-26 11:24 <mrichez> hi, with the removal of dav, i need to execute this command DELETE FROM ir_module where name = '<module_name>'; for each module DAV removed... A possible feature in this function http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/file/tip/trytond/ir/module.py#l281 could be an inverse loop to remove 'not activated' modules if they no more exists in the "modules" directory ?
2017-04-26 11:26 <cedk> mrichez: I do not think it is good because it is better to be explicit about removal
2017-04-26 11:27 <cedk> imaging that by mistake you missed to install a module during a migration/update, it will be removed without notice
2017-04-26 11:27 <mrichez> cedk: indeed. Or adding a specific option ?
2017-04-26 11:29 <mrichez> cedk: how users will migrate with the removal of dav ?
2017-04-26 11:30 <cedk> mrichez: I do not think it's worth the effort
2017-04-26 11:30 <cedk> user will migrate by following the migration document
2017-04-26 11:31 <cedk> https://discuss.tryton.org/t/migration-from-4-2-to-4-4/264
2017-04-26 11:32 <mrichez> cedk: ok. my idea was to remove only not activated modules, so no really risk when migrating... but it was just an idea
2017-04-26 11:34 <cedk> mrichez: so it does not really help migrating
2017-04-26 11:35 <cedk> a solution should be complete otherwise it just creates confusion
2017-04-26 11:36 <mrichez> cedk: it was for people who don't use those modules or when you test other modules , they are always staying in the module list
2017-04-26 11:38 <cedk> mrichez: if a module is installed even not activated, the migration process should be checked
2017-04-26 11:40 <mrichez> cedk: ok
2017-04-26 11:53 <pokoli> maybe it's worth to add an option to trytond-admin to clean unexisting modules?
2017-04-26 11:59 <cedk> pokoli: I'm still not confised it is useful
2017-04-26 12:07 <pokoli> cedk: neither do I, but I've found some users that can not open the module list because of unexisting modules and don't know how to fix it
2017-04-26 12:08 <pokoli> cedk: because they installed a new environment for migrating to a new version instead of updating the sources
2017-04-26 12:11 <cedk> pokoli: if they do not know, they will neither know about the admin command
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2017-04-26 12:18 <pokoli> cedk: but it's easier to say: "Use this command" than "Execute this query"
2017-04-26 12:18 <pokoli> and the query may be diferent depend on the modules, backends
2017-04-26 12:20 <cedk> pokoli: so maybe Module.update_list should take care also of deleting
2017-04-26 12:20 <cedk> pokoli: but only if it is not an activated module
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2017-04-26 14:22 <TomHu> Morning, I’m new to tryton. Tried to install and use it. The server is running, so is the webinterface. My database seems completely empty, there’s almost nothing I can do. I have a feeling my installations lacks something.
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2017-04-26 14:33 <pokoli> TomHu: you should activate some modules from Administration -> Modules
2017-04-26 14:37 <TomHu> pokoli: I can only see 2 modules: ir and res
2017-04-26 14:38 <TomHu> although I have alot of modules installed: root@ERP:~# dpkg -l | grep -i tryton | wc -l
2017-04-26 14:39 <TomHu> 106
2017-04-26 14:51 <TomHu> something seemed to be wrong with my database. I created a new one. The modules are now there.
2017-04-26 14:52 <TomHu> is there any i18n availale?
2017-04-26 14:52 <TomHu> available
2017-04-26 15:03 <pokoli> TomHu: you can use -m flag of trytond-admin to update module list on a existing database
2017-04-26 15:04 <pokoli> TomHu: yes, you must activate the language on the databse. See http://trytond.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/setup_database.html#topics-setup-database
2017-04-26 15:06 <TomHu> pokoli: I vaguely remembery te lang codes to be like locale codes, is that right?
2017-04-26 15:07 <pokoli> TomHu: The languages are available on Administration -> Localization -> Language, there you will see the codes
2017-04-26 15:07 <TomHu> pokoli: thanks again
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2017-04-26 16:52 <kstenger> nice, I didn't know about the -m flag of trytond-admin :-D
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2017-04-26 17:00 <pokoli> kstenger: it was added recently (don't know if 4.2 or trunk)
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