IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2018-12-23 #tryton log beginning Sun Dec 23 00:00:01 CET 2018
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xiculanhola hello15:32
xiculanhay alguien aqui? este foro es en español o en ingles?15:32
cedkxiculan: it is English here, Spanish is on  #tryton-es15:35
xiculanok thanks15:37
xiculanone question: I was trying to install a tryton server on raspbian and it was very hard to do, first I try whith apt-.get and I reach it, but then I tried with pip and it was  impossible :( and very long time, I read in one blog that install with apt-get is not updated packages, and with pip there are other kind of problems, meanwhile when I install any soft its simple like agt-get... and done.15:44
cedkxiculan: use the method you prefer and/or master15:45
cedkxiculan: I guess packages are based on the Debian package15:45
cedkxiculan: they are quite up to date usually, you can check debian.tryton.org15:46
xiculanNow i think Tryton is a very confusing thing with hundreds of links with diferent information. Can you all to reach an agreement to do all the same simple as apt-get and finish?15:46
cedkxiculan: no, the world is various and we can not fix the world15:48
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xiculanok thats true15:48
cedkxiculan: we provide archive of releases, it is up to the others to make packages for each distributions15:48
xiculanbut the official should be the same15:48
cedkxiculan: what official?15:49
cedkxiculan: what does it mean?15:49
xiculanofficial I mean:
cedkthe project support some ways that volunteers are up to maintain:
cedkxiculan: we do not want to force people to use any specific OS15:50
xiculanok cedk that's fantastic15:51
xiculanand which is the difference betwen trytond and tryton-server?15:52
cedkxiculan: where did you see tryton-server?15:52
cedkxiculan: are you talking about the debian package tryton-server?15:56
cedkif yes, it is the name the Debian project gives to trytond15:56
cedkwe are not responsible of that15:56
xiculanso you recomendme "sudo pip install trytond" easy like that?15:59
cedkxiculan: I do not recommend to use pip as root as it can messup with the OS packages16:00
xiculani tried some times and it was very long time, and allway occurs some error16:00
xiculanok i will try without sudo then16:03
cedkxiculan: it is probably slow because there are dependencies which requires to be compiled like libxml or psycopg16:03
cedkxiculan: on small devise like raspberry, it is probably better to use pre-compiled packages16:04
xiculanok, thanks a lot  for your help :)16:04
xiculanthere is any way to do it with less time?16:05
cedkxiculan: use a more powerful machine?16:06
xiculanok messaje recived ;D16:08
cedkor precompiled packages16:09
xiculanhow can i do with compiled packages?16:15
cedkxiculan: apparently it is apt-get install …16:16
xiculanlike apt-get install libxml?16:21
cedkxiculan: yes16:23
xiculanso why pip isnt't able to do "apt-get install libxml" itself?16:26
cedkxiculan: ask to
cedkbut I guess as they do a package manager, they do not want to rely on another package manager16:28
xiculanok yes its reasonable16:30
xiculanthe installation is running now form 30 min ago, i'm waiting and hope that it works with your help16:32
cedkxiculan: which package is slow?16:34
xiculanBuilding wheels for collected packages: lxml   Running bdist_wheel for lxml ... |16:36
cedkxiculan: so you should install lxml package prior to use pip16:37
cedkxiculan: I guess on Debian it is named: python-lxml16:37
xiculanso its better I stop the installation now or you mean for future installations?16:38
cedkxiculan: better to restart from scratch16:40
xiculani thing this was the trouble before, raspberry stays building all the time and I have to quit the power cause it doesent respond to crtl+x16:46
xiculando you thing that if is possible i make a bash script that first install the precompiled packages like "apt-get install python-lxml" and others and then "pip install trytond"? to automate the installation procedure?16:54
xiculanmaybe it will be usefull for another people?16:55
xiculanhello, i did apt-get install python-lxml and it goed well17:17
xiculanbut I tried another time "pip install trytond" and the process stoped in the same place17:18
xiculanBuilding wheels for collected packages: lxml   Running bdist_wheel for lxml ... /17:18
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