IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2018-12-23

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Dec 23 00:00:01 CET 2018
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xiculan	hola hello	15:32
xiculan	hay alguien aqui? este foro es en español o en ingles?	15:32
cedk	xiculan: it is English here, Spanish is on  #tryton-es	15:35
cedk	http://www.tryton.org/forum#irc	15:35
xiculan	ok thanks	15:37
xiculan	one question: I was trying to install a tryton server on raspbian and it was very hard to do, first I try whith apt-.get and I reach it, but then I tried with pip and it was  impossible :( and very long time, I read in one blog that install with apt-get is not updated packages, and with pip there are other kind of problems, meanwhile when I install any soft its simple like agt-get... and done.	15:44
cedk	xiculan: use the method you prefer and/or master	15:45
cedk	xiculan: I guess packages are based on the Debian package	15:45
cedk	xiculan: they are quite up to date usually, you can check debian.tryton.org	15:46
xiculan	Now i think Tryton is a very confusing thing with hundreds of links with diferent information. Can you all to reach an agreement to do all the same simple as apt-get and finish?	15:46
cedk	xiculan: no, the world is various and we can not fix the world	15:48
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xiculan	ok thats true	15:48
cedk	xiculan: we provide archive of releases, it is up to the others to make packages for each distributions	15:48
xiculan	but the official should be the same	15:48
cedk	xiculan: what official?	15:49
cedk	xiculan: what does it mean?	15:49
xiculan	official I mean: http://www.tryton.org/	15:49
cedk	the project support some ways that volunteers are up to maintain: http://www.tryton.org/download	15:49
cedk	xiculan: we do not want to force people to use any specific OS	15:50
xiculan	ok cedk that's fantastic	15:51
xiculan	and which is the difference betwen trytond and tryton-server?	15:52
cedk	xiculan: where did you see tryton-server?	15:52
cedk	xiculan: are you talking about the debian package tryton-server?	15:56
cedk	if yes, it is the name the Debian project gives to trytond	15:56
cedk	we are not responsible of that	15:56
xiculan	ok	15:58
xiculan	so you recomendme "sudo pip install trytond" easy like that?	15:59
cedk	xiculan: I do not recommend to use pip as root as it can messup with the OS packages	16:00
xiculan	i tried some times and it was very long time, and allway occurs some error	16:00
xiculan	ok i will try without sudo then	16:03
cedk	xiculan: it is probably slow because there are dependencies which requires to be compiled like libxml or psycopg	16:03
cedk	xiculan: on small devise like raspberry, it is probably better to use pre-compiled packages	16:04
xiculan	ok, thanks a lot  for your help :)	16:04
xiculan	there is any way to do it with less time?	16:05
cedk	xiculan: use a more powerful machine?	16:06
xiculan	ok messaje recived ;D	16:08
cedk	or precompiled packages	16:09
xiculan	how can i do with compiled packages?	16:15
cedk	xiculan: apparently it is apt-get install …	16:16
xiculan	like apt-get install libxml?	16:21
cedk	xiculan: yes	16:23
xiculan	so why pip isnt't able to do "apt-get install libxml" itself?	16:26
cedk	xiculan: ask to https://pypa.io/	16:28
cedk	but I guess as they do a package manager, they do not want to rely on another package manager	16:28
xiculan	ok yes its reasonable	16:30
xiculan	the installation is running now form 30 min ago, i'm waiting and hope that it works with your help	16:32
cedk	xiculan: which package is slow?	16:34
xiculan	Building wheels for collected packages: lxml   Running setup.py bdist_wheel for lxml ... |	16:36
cedk	xiculan: so you should install lxml package prior to use pip	16:37
cedk	xiculan: I guess on Debian it is named: python-lxml	16:37
xiculan	so its better I stop the installation now or you mean for future installations?	16:38
cedk	xiculan: better to restart from scratch	16:40
xiculan	i thing this was the trouble before, raspberry stays building all the time and I have to quit the power cause it doesent respond to crtl+x	16:46
xiculan	do you thing that if is possible i make a bash script that first install the precompiled packages like "apt-get install python-lxml" and others and then "pip install trytond"? to automate the installation procedure?	16:54
xiculan	maybe it will be usefull for another people?	16:55
xiculan	hello, i did apt-get install python-lxml and it goed well	17:17
xiculan	but I tried another time "pip install trytond" and the process stoped in the same place	17:18
xiculan	Building wheels for collected packages: lxml   Running setup.py bdist_wheel for lxml ... /	17:18
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