IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2008-11-18

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Nov 18 00:00:01 CET 2008
cedkessich: in the penultimate paragraph of http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#namespace-packages00:03
cedkthey say __init__.py must be installed only for egg but do not say how to do it00:04
cedkessich: perhaps I must use "trytond.modules.currency" as package name00:06
essichcedk: perhaps. I'm still building the test sample00:09
cedkessich: doesn't change anything00:10
essichcedk: I'm buolding a stand allone example, not working on trytond :-)00:11
cedkessich: it can be the faster way00:11
essichargl!00:12
essichI use namespace_packages = ['hartmut.plugins']00:12
essichbut i get an error:  hartmut is a namespace package, but its __init__.py does not call declare_namespace()! Please fix it.00:13
essichthis would mean that trytond would have to be empty :-(00:13
essichLet's habe nother test00:13
cedkessich: I think we must just put the __init__.py for installation in egg00:14
essichplease do not hurry ;-)00:16
CIA-34tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r349 /wiki/downloads.wiki: Created wiki page through web user interface.00:21
essichcedk: Okay, I thing I have solved it :-))00:39
cedkessich: great00:42
essichcdk: some resutucturing is required, since trytond.modules needs to be empty, but this should be easy00:44
essichcedk: I'll send you an archive and a README the next few minutes00:45
cedkessich: ok thx00:45
cedkessich: I need to go00:50
cedkessich: but I will check your email tomorow00:50
cedkessich: by00:51
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cedkDo you know some news site where we can post a new about the release?10:18
yangoonwebsite looks really good now!11:46
yangoontwo small improvements:11:47
yangoonThe core of Tryton provide_s_ ....11:47
yangoonmain modules available11:47
cedkyangoon: ok11:48
yangoonand perhaps change Postgresql to PostgreSQL11:48
yangooncedk: do you want me to send you some small coorections for http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt?11:49
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 173:01ec5bffb4a6 website/index.t2t: Fix typos11:49
cedkyangoon: yes11:50
cedkyangoon: website updated11:50
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udonocedk: on tryton.org News site: Missing Announcement12:13
cedkudono: don't understand12:14
udonoannouncement Release 1.0.012:14
udonocedk: on Documentation site: Missing that all documentation is provided with the software.12:14
udonocedk: Wiki ist developers documentation AFAIS12:14
cedkudono: you can provide fix for it?12:15
cedkudono: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/www.tryton.org/12:15
udonocedk: I can provide a patch for documentation. Do you put the announcement of Release 1.0.0 into the News?12:24
cedkudono: yes12:25
panthera.oO(congrats for 1.0.0 release; fyi: planning to upload everything during saturday to sid)12:28
udonocedk: where I find a syntax description of t2t?12:28
udonopanthera: Thanks a lot, and great to know!12:29
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udonocedk: it looks like mediawiki syntax...12:31
cedkudono: yes, I don't know where there is a doc about text2tag12:35
ikkscedk, yesterday I was able to test the tryton client 0.0.1.exe on Vista, Vista is in spanish, the installer started in spanish, then when first launched, looked like english, but able to select spanish12:35
ikksWhen I used user preferences via the menu and started again tryton it was in spanish.12:36
yangoonpanthera: just great!!12:39
yangooncedk: what does this mean: Allow to fill or not the list view with an empty column?12:40
cedkyangoon: when you have a list, the last column fill all the empty space12:48
yangooncedk: ok12:48
cedkyangoon: but sometime if you have a field the is aligned to right, it is annoying12:48
cedkso we allow to put an empty column to fill the empty space :-)12:49
cedkikks: can you fill an issue?12:49
cedkudono: you have perhaps a cache issue12:50
udonocedk: for which problem?12:56
cedkudono: about the news12:59
udonocedk: ok, possible12:59
udonocedk: I create with make?13:00
udonoand then make install?13:00
udonoIc13:00
cedkudono: you don't need to "make install"13:01
cedkudono: but you must run e webserver to check13:01
cedkudono: I use: python -c "import SimpleHTTPServer;SimpleHTTPServer.test()"13:02
ikksok, cedk, I will recheck and fill thanks.13:03
ikksBTW, great to have 1.0 :)13:03
yangooncedk: sent Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt by mail13:03
udonocedk: great, funny works :-)13:04
cedkyangoon: ok13:06
ikksmaybe /msg chanserv set #tryton entrymsg Tryton 1.0 released <- http://www.tryton.org/downloads.html13:06
cedkikks: and check if the windows default language is well set to spanish13:06
ikksIt was defaulted to spanish13:07
ikksbbl :)13:07
pantherayangoon: just curious, what is 'Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt' about? something for the website?13:10
cedkpanthera: http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt13:12
cedkpanthera: to explain why we fork13:13
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cedkset #tryton ENTRYMSG Tryton's Channel || Bug Tracker http://bugs.tryton.org/ || Wiki http://wiki.tryton.org/ || Google Groups http://groups.tryton.org/ || IRC Log http://www.tryton.org/~irclog/ || Tryton 1.0.0 released http://www.tryton.org/downloads.html13:16
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pantherai'd like to have a 'tryton-modules-base' virtual package, that depends on the essential modules one would want.13:34
pantherashould i just depend on those which are listed on the website?13:34
cedkpanthera: we think about creating profile modules later13:34
pantherawhat are profile modules?13:35
cedkpanthera: it is just modules that have just dependencies13:35
cedkpanthera: no code13:35
cedkbut I'm not sure about that13:35
cedkbecause I think it is good that user select only modules that he needs13:36
pantheraif he wants to, yes. but there should be such virtual packages (or profile modules; doesn't matter which 'implementation').13:38
pantherahowever, let me know when you though about it (no hurry), so that i know if i'll have to do it through virtual packages or not.13:39
udonopanthera: I think all base modules are already included in the trytond server. These are IR, RES, Workflow and webdav13:39
udonopanthera: everything else is optional13:39
udonopanthera: AFAIK for all modules on the tryton.org website the tryton project is resposible. Every other modules or modules in development are in the responsibility of the provider.13:41
pantheraudono: that all 'base' modules you consider as base are in tryton-server resolvs the issue already. so nothing to do.13:43
pantherahowever, just for the records: i was not speaking about non-tryton.org modules above.13:43
pantheraso, i'll have a meta package that will depend on all tryton.org modules called tryton-modules-extra then.13:44
Timitoscedk: we published a news about tryton on a german news site: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2008/13472.html13:44
Timitoscedk: i will for some more sites.13:44
Timitosbut they changed the content a little bit. thats not nice.13:47
cedkTimitos: it is custom way on those website, it is to have a kind of homogeneity with all post13:49
Timitoscedk: yes but they also changed my picture with german language with an english one from tryton.org :-( . but i need to live with that.13:50
cedkTimitos: yes that is strange13:52
Timitoscedk: and they messed up the framework with the modules. :'(13:53
cedkTimitos: post a comment :-)13:55
pantherahm, why is 'python setup.py install --prefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/tryton-client/usr' not resulting in a 'complete' installation in that destdir?13:55
Timitoscedk: good idea.13:55
pantherai only get the stuff in lib/python2.5/site-packages13:55
pantheranot the locales, pixmaps, and lib/tryton stuff.13:55
cedkpanthera: where are they?13:57
pantherathey are but in $(CURDIR)/build13:57
pantherabut they should be copied to destdir (or --prefix, as specified above).13:59
pantherahm, have to leave.. will be back in the evening.13:59
cedkpanthera: strange because I have no problem with gentoo ebuild14:04
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 174:efd0b4c73b3b website/documentation.t2t: dded documentation instructions from udono14:29
cedkI think I have the hack to make tryton working with easy_install14:32
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udonocedk: very great14:59
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xarkambonjour15:00
Timitosxarkam: hi15:04
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xarkamj'aurais quelques question sur le projet15:21
Timitosxarkam: i don´t understand french. cedk is on lunch perhaps he can help you later. or someone other from here perhaps.15:26
xarkamokay15:26
xarkamthere one; what is the best version of python to use with tryton ?15:27
yangoonyou need >=2.415:28
Timitosxarkam: i use 2.5. but i think it also works with 2.4. 2.6 i think is not tested yet. i think 2.5 is the best version for now15:28
xarkamok thanks15:28
yangoonxarkam: you find documentation in the wiki15:28
yangoonxarkam: if you find things to make better let us know15:29
xarkamokay15:30
cedkback15:48
xarkambien mangé ? :p15:48
cedkxarkam: oui merci15:48
xarkambon mon anglais étant rouillé grave, je vais te poser quelque question, car je suis pas a l'aise avec le wiki google15:48
cedkxarkam: ok15:50
xarkampour python on m'a répondu, mais pour postgresql, quelle version est conseillée ?15:51
cedkxarkam: on test l'application avec une version au moin 815:52
xarkamok15:53
cedkxarkam: mais il est fort possible qu'il fonctionne aussi avec une 715:53
cedkxarkam: on n'utilise que du code SQL99 normallement15:53
xarkamvous compez fournir une machine virtuelle vmware pour tester dans l'avenir ?15:53
cedkxarkam: on a parlé un moment d'un live cd15:54
xarkamc'est pas un peut lent le live cd ?15:55
cedkxarkam: on a pas encore testé15:55
xarkamenfin moi je dit ca, mais avec un ubuntu live. bon c'est vrai que ca charge plein de service.15:57
xarkamje pensais a une vmx en mode console et le client sur l'hote de la vmx15:59
cedkxarkam: je me demande si on va pas mettre un serveur publique pour tester15:59
xarkamc'est une solution16:00
xarkamune question, pourquoi avoir choisi google wiki ?16:00
cedkxarkam: on a pas besoin de le gérer et on ne perdra pas des info à cause d'un crash machine (http://openerp.com/forum/topic8267.html) :-)16:02
cedkxarkam: de tout maniere le wiki, c'est pour les developpeurs, le but est d'avoir la doc avec les sources16:03
xarkamokay16:03
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cedkTimitos: did you find a fix for the issue with "/etc/trytond.conf" and egg install ?16:39
Timitoscedk: no sorry.16:40
cedkTimitos: I try by removing the first '/' but normal install doesn't work16:42
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pantheracedk: where can i see the ebuild? official gentoo or somewhere else?17:26
cedkpanthera: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/tryton-overlay/17:27
cedkpanthera: server and client are under app-office17:27
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1256:81a1e8ba989b trytond/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Allow egg installation working17:42
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 89:697c4e4f926e gentoo-overlay/app-office/trytond/ (Manifest trytond-9999.ebuild): Add install of trytond.conf17:43
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1257:4e2644c6d544 trytond/CHANGELOG: Add missing changelog17:46
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CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 301:988479bdea9b account/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:51
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 19:f7108625822f account_be/setup.py: Allow egg installation18:51
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 190:7e49f90cfc59 account_invoice/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:51
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 21:1edc408d6590 account_product/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:51
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 76:4b2b8325bd85 account_statement/setup.py: Allow egg installation18:51
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 49:b3e32f5a5367 analytic_account/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 32:eedce8a418a6 analytic_invoice/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 32:78287423d445 analytic_purchase/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 21:239726f56005 analytic_sale/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 96:3d17b4b697c7 company/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 17:1784f96b7ad8 country/setup.py: Add entry_points in setup.py18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 46:f04c533f6ee4 currency/setup.py: Add entry_points18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 47:1b6b8e9d9b5b currency/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Add missing download_url and changelog18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 29:f93359184f93 google_maps/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 200:cde27bb9b571 party/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 113:69661d920019 product/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 33:1eb5691667dc project/setup.py: Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 20:71eb7ff59166 project_revenue/setup.py: Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 159:3190e07da81e purchase/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 65:e159f67945a4 sale/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 371:f45f79d58218 stock/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:52
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 140:1291cca015f9 stock_supply/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation18:53
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 57:7382bcf086dc timesheet/setup.py: Allow egg installation18:53
cedkudono, Timitos: I push the modification to allow installation with easy_install18:53
cedkcan you test it?18:54
cedkto generate egg's, just run python setup.py bdist_egg for each module and server18:54
cedkI push it for now in the developpement repositories18:54
Timitoscedk: great. i am just sitting on our website. need to finish this. but i will test it after that.18:54
cedkif it works I will push it in the 1.0 branch18:55
cedkpanthera: I remove in the setup.py the option that install trytond.conf into /etc18:55
cedkpanthera: as it doesn't work with easy_install18:56
cedkpanthera: it is not a issue for trytond because it can run without18:56
cedkpanthera: but it will be good if the configuration file will be installed like I do in the ebuild18:56
pantheracedk: noted, thanks.18:56
cedkTimitos: ok, i will wait your feedback18:56
cedkpanthera: it will be for the version >1.0.018:57
udonocedk: Timitos. looks good with the eggs19:10
udonoI installed trytond and account, now server finds account19:10
udonocedk: Processing dependencies for trytond-company==1.1.019:12
udonoerror: Installed distribution trytond 1.1.0 conflicts with requirement trytond<1.119:12
udonocedk: same with party19:13
cedkudono: are they uptodate ?19:15
cedkudono: because the number version is 1.1.019:15
udonoI updated all19:15
cedkudono: what is the version number of party and company ?19:15
udonoparty: __tryton__.py:     'version' : '1.1.0',19:16
udonoI make: python setup.py bdist_egg19:16
cedkudono: can you copy/paste the all output19:16
udonoand then: sudo easy_install .19:16
cedkudono: did you put all the egg's in the same directory and use it for install19:17
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 201:daa723d96476 party/ (party.py party.xml): Add default categories from context and use it in act_party_by_category19:18
CIA-34tryton: udo.spallek * r350 /wiki/ProjectOrganization.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.19:19
CIA-34tryton: udo.spallek * r351 /wiki/ProjectOrganization.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.19:19
CIA-34tryton: udo.spallek * r352 /wiki/ProjectOrganization.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.19:19
CIA-34tryton: udo.spallek * r353 /wiki/RFCReportProcessing.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.19:19
CIA-34tryton: udo.spallek * r354 /wiki/RFCDocumentation.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.19:19
CIA-34tryton: udo.spallek * r355 /wiki/DocumentationClient.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.19:19
udonocedk: no, I try. traceback is: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91646/19:19
udonocedk: no, but I try...19:19
CIA-34tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 202:77d209f6e57c party/CHANGELOG: Add missing changelog19:19
cedkudono: what is the content of trytond_party.egg-info/requires.txt19:24
udonotrytond_country19:38
udonotrytond >= 1.119:38
udonotrytond < 1.219:38
udono[VAT]19:38
udonovatnumber19:38
udonocedk:19:38
udonocedk: I copied now all egg-infos into one directory19:39
cedkudono: did you installed country before ?19:39
udonocedk: how can I install the egg-infos with easy install?19:41
cedkudono: what do you call egg-infos?19:44
cedkudono: you must run easy_install -d . /directory/to/egg/*.egg19:44
udonocedk: did I need the egg-info files in my directory?19:48
cedkudono: I don't think so19:49
udonocedk: ok, I collected all together. Now I cleanup my easy-install.pth20:02
udonocedk: is openoffice.interact installed by trytond too?20:03
udonocedk: the -d option seems wrong20:10
udono--install-dir (-d)             install package to DIR20:10
udonoI've got it: sudo easy_install -i . ./trytond_account_invoice-1.1.0-py2.5.egg20:15
udonothe modules seems to install with all dependencies and in the right way: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91663/20:32
udonocedk: the client tryts to install pygtk, which is already installed...http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91664/20:35
udonocedk:  print gtk.gtk_version20:41
udono(2, 12, 11)20:41
udonocedk: I think it works. Only the clientinstallation makes problems with trying to install gtk, which is already installed in version 2.12.1120:42
cedkudono: it is because yout installation of pygtk from the OS is not egg aware21:16
udonocedk: its gentoo21:18
cedkudono: on gentoo, it seems that there is no egg21:18
cedkudono: what happend if you answer No21:22
udonoit is installed, but not running21:22
cedkudono: is there error message21:22
udonocedk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91677/21:23
cedkudono: don't know how to handle this21:28
cedkudono: except by removing the requires for pygtk in the setup.py21:29
cedkudono: any way, it is ok for the server?21:29
cedkudono: for pygtk, htgoebel maybe know some tricks21:38
udonocedk: it looks very ok, server starts and all dependencies to account_invoice were fullfilled21:42
cedkudono: ok, I will push the change in 1.0 branch21:43
udonoI don't know if it loads relatorio automatically and openoffice.interact, cos I did my Installation from Filesystem21:43
udonocedk: I will check tomorrow morning21:44
cedkudono: relatorio normally but openoffice.interact is optional21:46
cedkudono: I check some gtk application in pypi and they don't put pygtk in the requires21:46
cedkudono: even somes have it commented21:46
cedkudono: I suppose this is because it breaks stuff21:46
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udonobye22:28
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dtxok, what advantages are there with Tryton over OpenERP?23:04
yangoon1dtx: http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt23:05
dtxmight want to add that to the FAQ23:06
dtx:-P23:06
yangoon1dtx: and AFAIS it is much more community project23:06
yangoon1dtx: good idea23:06
dtxWhereas OpenERP is commercial product23:06
yangoon1dtx: each community project can be commercial product23:07
ikksBoth are commercial23:07
ikksThe difference is the control, sprl editor.23:07
dtxwhat is sprl editor mean?23:09
ikksTiny sprl is the company that has the control over openerp23:10
dtxah23:10
dtxWho controls Tryton?23:11
dtxOr what kind of management structure does it have?23:11
Timitosdtx: the project is managed by the community. but there is the company b2ck which intialized the project.23:14
yangoon1dtx: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ProjectOrganization23:14
Timitosdtx: for that they have some strong influence on the project.23:14
yangoon1back in a minute23:15
dtxWeird, I was just making a Pylons app with Elixir and was wondering about an easier way to make reports, I guess I should have browsed OpenHex's other projects23:15
Timitosdtx: but we already discussed some very important topics and there is really a good collaboration here23:15
dtxBut just on a side note23:16
Timitos:-) tryton uses relatorio from openhex23:16
dtxYeah, that's how I just found it23:17
dtx:-P23:17
dtxLooks cool23:17
dtxI remember reading about a similar way of making reports using OpenERP but it was purchase only iirc23:18
dtxSPRL does that denote Incorporation?23:19
dtxAre there packages for Ubuntu?23:21
Timitosdtx: sprl is a company similar to Limited23:22
Timitosdtx: not yet. but there will be packages for debian perhaps in the next days23:22
Timitosdtx: we are working on easy_install for tryton in the moment.23:23
dtxoh cool23:23
dtxthat works too23:23
Timitoscedk: i get the following error when i try easy_install      error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('trytond<1.2')23:23
Timitoscedk: i tried easy_install with account_module. but it seems that the dependencies are not found on the website23:24
Timitosdtx: we are working on it ;-)23:24
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Timitoscedk: when i try to install trytond with easy_install i get the following error: No local packages or download links found for egenix-mx-base23:25
Timitoserror: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('egenix-mx-base')23:25
Timitoscedk: i think this an ubuntu topic as the package has another name as i remember23:26
Timitoscedk: i always used this package for ubuntu: python-egenix-mxdatetime23:27
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saxawoow23:28
saxalotsa folk in here23:28
dtxIs that an exaggeration?23:28
dtxor literally?23:28
saxawhats the purpose of this fork ?23:28
Timitossaxa: welcome23:29
saxadtx: probably both23:29
saxaat least this chan seems more alive than the tinyerp one23:29
saxathats good23:29
saxa:)23:29
dtxI'll field this one: http://www.tryton.org/documentation/faq.html23:29
yangoon1saxa: what are you looking for?23:29
saxaneed to tryton :))23:29
dtxlook at the last question23:29
ikkshi saxa, this channel is a lot more responsive.23:29
saxaikks: hi23:30
Timitossaxa: yes it is. you can take a look at irc-logs: http://www.tryton.org/~irclog/23:30
saxaikks: i see it23:30
dtxI'm just here because I read about this project on Python sub-Reddit23:30
saxaTimitos: hi23:30
yangoon1saxa: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ProjectOrganization23:30
ikkssaxa, You'll love the issue tracker.23:30
yangoon1:D23:30
saxamaybe better to say hi to all of you23:30
saxai was looking arround before a little23:30
saxaand seems interesting23:30
yangoon1saxa: sorry, wanted to say http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt23:31
dtxWhere are most devs for this project located out of23:31
saxahmm23:31
dtxExcluding original non-participating OpenERP devs23:31
saxaanyway i find it good23:31
saxaconcurence is always good23:32
Timitosdtx: the developpers from b2ck are from belgium. udono, me an yangoon are from germany. there are some guy from france too and some more23:32
yangoon1dtx: there is no one excluded23:32
saxa- Use psycopg2 instead of psycopg23:32
saxayeay23:32
saxafinaly23:32
saxaACTION is from Slovenija, living in Italy23:33
Timitossaxa: nice to meet you :-)23:34
saxaACTION speaks slovenian, italian, portugues, russian (a little) and english :)23:34
dtxMan I wish open source software was as widespread here in Oklahoma23:34
saxaanyway, i can help in my spare time23:34
yangoon1saxa: so you have already experience with open|tinyerp?23:34
saxamaybe do some packages or translate something, maybe even python :)23:34
saxayangoon1: yup23:35
saxai wanted to use it in my company23:35
saxaand have some troubles with the pricelists23:35
saxaso everything was postponed23:35
saxabecause this thing is stupid, that you cant update the pricelists prices23:36
saxalike its in tiny23:36
yangoon1saxa: you probably need some special account chart for italy?23:36
saxai have my company one23:36
saxai tried to migrate everything from my company accounting to tiny23:36
saxanot that difficult23:36
saxaaccounting is ok23:37
saxaproblems in tiny are in products23:37
saxathen sales module not well connected with purchase23:37
dtxYou can't update the prices in pricelists?23:37
saxaACTION speaks for his company23:37
saxadtx: you can do it with a module in tiny23:38
saxabut it updates the price for a fixed percent23:38
Timitossaxa: we will work on accounting in tryton for the next release. i think accounting in tryton will get better than in openerp23:38
saxathats not good for me23:38
saxaTimitos: thats good to hear23:38
saxai will install tryton for sure23:38
Timitossaxa: a complete translation for italy would be great23:38
Timitosyou can now translate the client and all error messages too23:39
saxathere is a team already working on openerp italian version23:39
saxadont know how much this can apply for tryton23:39
saxaanyway, I will look at it, and hope that i can find the correct erp here :)23:40
Timitosi think the translation process is different. i don´t know much about translation in openerp23:40
yangoon1saxa: perhaps you can take some items, but interface is probably rather different23:40
saxaTimitos: most of the messages can be the same ones23:40
saxaCTRL-C CTRL-V can help a lot :)23:40
saxaI can try to do it yes23:40
saxamaybe some other persons working in openerp-it can also help with that23:41
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saxaanyway, I was at the time thinking in porting the gtk client to C :)23:41
saxaI like to program in C23:41
saxanot much good at it23:42
saxabut it would be a good experience23:42
dtxWhy would you want to port it to C?23:42
saxajust to learn better GTK23:42
saxa:)23:42
saxait would be in any case faster than in python23:43
saxapython sometimes is slow23:43
dtxYes, but usually with this kind of software humans are much slower23:43
saxabut probably thats because of networking issues23:43
dtxyeah23:43
dtxor db size23:43
saxayup23:43
dtxunrefined queries, etc.23:43
saxajust think about my price lists, I have more than 300.000 items in them23:44
Timitossaxa: try tryton first. there were some optimizations made for performance23:44
saxawarious ones23:44
dtx300,000?23:44
saxaTimitos: i will23:44
saxayup23:44
dtxhow?23:44
saxaI work with spare parts23:44
dtxOh, wow23:44
saxafor earth moving machines23:44
dtxok23:44
saxaseals, o-rings, pistons, tubes, gaskets, bearings, and much more23:45
dtxIs the product list not indexed on the product id?23:45
Timitossaxa: especially for long lists. the limit for records is 20000 in tryton not 80 as in openerp23:45
saxajust to name few of them23:45
dtxI have little experience with OpenERP and none with this project so far23:45
saxaeach one has many part numbers23:45
dtxmultiple part numbers for one product?23:45
saxaTimitos: thats good, but this was not a big issue in openerp23:45
saxadtx: correct23:45
saxaalso, replacements23:46
dtxOr do you mean multiple part numbers in like an assembly of products or something?23:46
saxaone part is discontinued and then you have a replacement23:46
dtxoh ok23:46
saxadtx: thats also what is needed23:46
saxanone of this is in tinyerp23:46
dtxI need something similar to that assembly23:46
saxai can help to develop that if you want23:46
dtxI was thinking about extending it with some sort of macro entry system23:47
saxai'm not much good at python, or better have not did anything in it23:47
saxabut i can explain how things work from my point of view23:47
saxaand this is mainly a database thing i can say23:47
saxabtw, how is import in tryton ?23:48
saxahave you corrected some issues there ?23:48
dtxwhy not code a product using some internal code, and then make a lookup window for all the alias part numbers?23:48
saxaimport/export had also troubles in my point of view23:48
Timitossaxa: there was an issue with big files as i remember. this issue is fixed.23:48
yangoon1saxa: parser of xml files is now sax;)23:49
saxadtx: that can work, but when you work with codes from suppliers it wont work unless you will order each part separately to your supplier23:49
saxaTimitos: I remember i tried to import 70000 items but it has not worked in tiny23:50
dtxso the problem is each supplier has their own code for the same product and different iterations of the product, essentially?23:50
saxai have all those files handy so i can try with tryton also23:50
Timitossaxa: i think this is a question for cedk. he can give you some more information about this.23:51
saxadtx: i sell CAT, KOMATSU, BERCO, FIAT and other producers parts23:51
Timitosso there is much to do on tryton and every is welcome to contribute23:51
saxadtx: each of those has its own coding system23:51
saxaok23:51
saxawho is the leader of the group ?23:52
saxajust to know who makes decisions :)23:52
saxaand when this project started out ?23:52
saxabtw, have you any plans to develop a better way to personalize the reports ?23:53
Timitossaxa: what do you need about personalize the reports?23:53
dtxAre they not OpenDocuments?23:54
dtxused with Relatorio?23:54
yangoon1dtx: correct23:54
Timitossaxa: translations of the reports can be done with the normal translation system of tryton23:54
Timitossaxa: tryton uses for reports openoffice23:54
dtxman I am glad I visited this project23:56
saxaTimitos: I want to make a custom invoice for example, where the fields are printed as i want them23:56
dtxIt will help me in the short term with a website I am setting up, and hopefully I can eventually migrate my ERP over to tryton23:57
saxasometimes numbering of each line is needed in a report23:57
dtxRight now we are using..... Microsoft Dynamics :-(23:57
Timitosyou mean position numbers? this is possible with openoffice out of the box i think.23:57
saxaTimitos: yes, but i dont know if oo prints the numbers23:58
Timitossaxa: you can talk to udono about that. he tested the report engine most of us23:58
saxaprobably yes23:58
saxaTimitos: ok23:58
saxaanyway will download the sources and try to install it on my slamd64 machine23:58
saxaI even bought the tinyerp book :)23:59
Timitossaxa: :-D23:59
yangoon1saxa: ebay;)23:59
dtxIs there a command line to convert odt to pdfs?23:59
saxaas I think this is usefull but from a first look it wasnt so much00:00

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