IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2008-11-18

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Nov 18 00:00:01 CET 2008
2008-11-18 00:03 <cedk> essich: in the penultimate paragraph of http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#namespace-packages
2008-11-18 00:04 <cedk> they say __init__.py must be installed only for egg but do not say how to do it
2008-11-18 00:06 <cedk> essich: perhaps I must use "trytond.modules.currency" as package name
2008-11-18 00:09 <essich> cedk: perhaps. I'm still building the test sample
2008-11-18 00:10 <cedk> essich: doesn't change anything
2008-11-18 00:11 <essich> cedk: I'm buolding a stand allone example, not working on trytond :-)
2008-11-18 00:11 <cedk> essich: it can be the faster way
2008-11-18 00:12 <essich> argl!
2008-11-18 00:12 <essich> I use namespace_packages = ['hartmut.plugins']
2008-11-18 00:13 <essich> but i get an error: hartmut is a namespace package, but its __init__.py does not call declare_namespace()! Please fix it.
2008-11-18 00:13 <essich> this would mean that trytond would have to be empty :-(
2008-11-18 00:13 <essich> Let's habe nother test
2008-11-18 00:14 <cedk> essich: I think we must just put the __init__.py for installation in egg
2008-11-18 00:16 <essich> please do not hurry ;-)
2008-11-18 00:21 <CIA-34> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r349 /wiki/downloads.wiki: Created wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 00:39 <essich> cedk: Okay, I thing I have solved it :-))
2008-11-18 00:42 <cedk> essich: great
2008-11-18 00:44 <essich> cdk: some resutucturing is required, since trytond.modules needs to be empty, but this should be easy
2008-11-18 00:45 <essich> cedk: I'll send you an archive and a README the next few minutes
2008-11-18 00:45 <cedk> essich: ok thx
2008-11-18 00:50 <cedk> essich: I need to go
2008-11-18 00:50 <cedk> essich: but I will check your email tomorow
2008-11-18 00:51 <cedk> essich: by
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2008-11-18 10:18 <cedk> Do you know some news site where we can post a new about the release?
2008-11-18 11:46 <yangoon> website looks really good now!
2008-11-18 11:47 <yangoon> two small improvements:
2008-11-18 11:47 <yangoon> The core of Tryton provide_s_ ....
2008-11-18 11:47 <yangoon> main modules available
2008-11-18 11:48 <cedk> yangoon: ok
2008-11-18 11:48 <yangoon> and perhaps change Postgresql to PostgreSQL
2008-11-18 11:49 <yangoon> cedk: do you want me to send you some small coorections for http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt?
2008-11-18 11:49 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 173:01ec5bffb4a6 website/index.t2t: Fix typos
2008-11-18 11:50 <cedk> yangoon: yes
2008-11-18 11:50 <cedk> yangoon: website updated
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2008-11-18 12:13 <udono> cedk: on tryton.org News site: Missing Announcement
2008-11-18 12:14 <cedk> udono: don't understand
2008-11-18 12:14 <udono> announcement Release 1.0.0
2008-11-18 12:14 <udono> cedk: on Documentation site: Missing that all documentation is provided with the software.
2008-11-18 12:14 <udono> cedk: Wiki ist developers documentation AFAIS
2008-11-18 12:15 <cedk> udono: you can provide fix for it?
2008-11-18 12:15 <cedk> udono: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/www.tryton.org/
2008-11-18 12:24 <udono> cedk: I can provide a patch for documentation. Do you put the announcement of Release 1.0.0 into the News?
2008-11-18 12:25 <cedk> udono: yes
2008-11-18 12:28 <panthera> .oO(congrats for 1.0.0 release; fyi: planning to upload everything during saturday to sid)
2008-11-18 12:28 <udono> cedk: where I find a syntax description of t2t?
2008-11-18 12:29 <udono> panthera: Thanks a lot, and great to know!
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2008-11-18 12:31 <udono> cedk: it looks like mediawiki syntax...
2008-11-18 12:35 <cedk> udono: yes, I don't know where there is a doc about text2tag
2008-11-18 12:35 <ikks> cedk, yesterday I was able to test the tryton client 0.0.1.exe on Vista, Vista is in spanish, the installer started in spanish, then when first launched, looked like english, but able to select spanish
2008-11-18 12:36 <ikks> When I used user preferences via the menu and started again tryton it was in spanish.
2008-11-18 12:39 <yangoon> panthera: just great!!
2008-11-18 12:40 <yangoon> cedk: what does this mean: Allow to fill or not the list view with an empty column?
2008-11-18 12:48 <cedk> yangoon: when you have a list, the last column fill all the empty space
2008-11-18 12:48 <yangoon> cedk: ok
2008-11-18 12:48 <cedk> yangoon: but sometime if you have a field the is aligned to right, it is annoying
2008-11-18 12:49 <cedk> so we allow to put an empty column to fill the empty space :-)
2008-11-18 12:49 <cedk> ikks: can you fill an issue?
2008-11-18 12:50 <cedk> udono: you have perhaps a cache issue
2008-11-18 12:56 <udono> cedk: for which problem?
2008-11-18 12:59 <cedk> udono: about the news
2008-11-18 12:59 <udono> cedk: ok, possible
2008-11-18 13:00 <udono> cedk: I create with make?
2008-11-18 13:00 <udono> and then make install?
2008-11-18 13:00 <udono> Ic
2008-11-18 13:01 <cedk> udono: you don't need to "make install"
2008-11-18 13:01 <cedk> udono: but you must run e webserver to check
2008-11-18 13:02 <cedk> udono: I use: python -c "import SimpleHTTPServer;SimpleHTTPServer.test()"
2008-11-18 13:03 <ikks> ok, cedk, I will recheck and fill thanks.
2008-11-18 13:03 <ikks> BTW, great to have 1.0 :)
2008-11-18 13:03 <yangoon> cedk: sent Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt by mail
2008-11-18 13:04 <udono> cedk: great, funny works :-)
2008-11-18 13:06 <cedk> yangoon: ok
2008-11-18 13:06 <ikks> maybe /msg chanserv set #tryton entrymsg Tryton 1.0 released <- http://www.tryton.org/downloads.html
2008-11-18 13:06 <cedk> ikks: and check if the windows default language is well set to spanish
2008-11-18 13:07 <ikks> It was defaulted to spanish
2008-11-18 13:07 <ikks> bbl :)
2008-11-18 13:10 <panthera> yangoon: just curious, what is 'Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt' about? something for the website?
2008-11-18 13:12 <cedk> panthera: http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt
2008-11-18 13:13 <cedk> panthera: to explain why we fork
2008-11-18 13:14 -!- ChanServ changed mode/#tryton -> +o cedk
2008-11-18 13:16 <cedk> set #tryton ENTRYMSG Tryton's Channel || Bug Tracker http://bugs.tryton.org/ || Wiki http://wiki.tryton.org/ || Google Groups http://groups.tryton.org/ || IRC Log http://www.tryton.org/~irclog/ || Tryton 1.0.0 released http://www.tryton.org/downloads.html
2008-11-18 13:17 -!- ChanServ changed mode/#tryton -> -o cedk
2008-11-18 13:34 <panthera> i'd like to have a 'tryton-modules-base' virtual package, that depends on the essential modules one would want.
2008-11-18 13:34 <panthera> should i just depend on those which are listed on the website?
2008-11-18 13:34 <cedk> panthera: we think about creating profile modules later
2008-11-18 13:35 <panthera> what are profile modules?
2008-11-18 13:35 <cedk> panthera: it is just modules that have just dependencies
2008-11-18 13:35 <cedk> panthera: no code
2008-11-18 13:35 <cedk> but I'm not sure about that
2008-11-18 13:36 <cedk> because I think it is good that user select only modules that he needs
2008-11-18 13:38 <panthera> if he wants to, yes. but there should be such virtual packages (or profile modules; doesn't matter which 'implementation').
2008-11-18 13:39 <panthera> however, let me know when you though about it (no hurry), so that i know if i'll have to do it through virtual packages or not.
2008-11-18 13:39 <udono> panthera: I think all base modules are already included in the trytond server. These are IR, RES, Workflow and webdav
2008-11-18 13:39 <udono> panthera: everything else is optional
2008-11-18 13:41 <udono> panthera: AFAIK for all modules on the tryton.org website the tryton project is resposible. Every other modules or modules in development are in the responsibility of the provider.
2008-11-18 13:43 <panthera> udono: that all 'base' modules you consider as base are in tryton-server resolvs the issue already. so nothing to do.
2008-11-18 13:43 <panthera> however, just for the records: i was not speaking about non-tryton.org modules above.
2008-11-18 13:44 <panthera> so, i'll have a meta package that will depend on all tryton.org modules called tryton-modules-extra then.
2008-11-18 13:44 <Timitos> cedk: we published a news about tryton on a german news site: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2008/13472.html
2008-11-18 13:44 <Timitos> cedk: i will for some more sites.
2008-11-18 13:47 <Timitos> but they changed the content a little bit. thats not nice.
2008-11-18 13:49 <cedk> Timitos: it is custom way on those website, it is to have a kind of homogeneity with all post
2008-11-18 13:50 <Timitos> cedk: yes but they also changed my picture with german language with an english one from tryton.org :-( . but i need to live with that.
2008-11-18 13:52 <cedk> Timitos: yes that is strange
2008-11-18 13:53 <Timitos> cedk: and they messed up the framework with the modules. :'(
2008-11-18 13:55 <cedk> Timitos: post a comment :-)
2008-11-18 13:55 <panthera> hm, why is 'python setup.py install --prefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/tryton-client/usr' not resulting in a 'complete' installation in that destdir?
2008-11-18 13:55 <Timitos> cedk: good idea.
2008-11-18 13:55 <panthera> i only get the stuff in lib/python2.5/site-packages
2008-11-18 13:55 <panthera> not the locales, pixmaps, and lib/tryton stuff.
2008-11-18 13:57 <cedk> panthera: where are they?
2008-11-18 13:57 <panthera> they are but in $(CURDIR)/build
2008-11-18 13:59 <panthera> but they should be copied to destdir (or --prefix, as specified above).
2008-11-18 13:59 <panthera> hm, have to leave.. will be back in the evening.
2008-11-18 14:04 <cedk> panthera: strange because I have no problem with gentoo ebuild
2008-11-18 14:29 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 174:efd0b4c73b3b website/documentation.t2t: dded documentation instructions from udono
2008-11-18 14:32 <cedk> I think I have the hack to make tryton working with easy_install
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2008-11-18 14:59 <udono> cedk: very great
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2008-11-18 15:00 <xarkam> bonjour
2008-11-18 15:04 <Timitos> xarkam: hi
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2008-11-18 15:21 <xarkam> j'aurais quelques question sur le projet
2008-11-18 15:26 <Timitos> xarkam: i don´t understand french. cedk is on lunch perhaps he can help you later. or someone other from here perhaps.
2008-11-18 15:26 <xarkam> okay
2008-11-18 15:27 <xarkam> there one; what is the best version of python to use with tryton ?
2008-11-18 15:28 <yangoon> you need >=2.4
2008-11-18 15:28 <Timitos> xarkam: i use 2.5. but i think it also works with 2.4. 2.6 i think is not tested yet. i think 2.5 is the best version for now
2008-11-18 15:28 <xarkam> ok thanks
2008-11-18 15:28 <yangoon> xarkam: you find documentation in the wiki
2008-11-18 15:29 <yangoon> xarkam: if you find things to make better let us know
2008-11-18 15:30 <xarkam> okay
2008-11-18 15:48 <cedk> back
2008-11-18 15:48 <xarkam> bien mangé ? :p
2008-11-18 15:48 <cedk> xarkam: oui merci
2008-11-18 15:48 <xarkam> bon mon anglais étant rouillé grave, je vais te poser quelque question, car je suis pas a l'aise avec le wiki google
2008-11-18 15:50 <cedk> xarkam: ok
2008-11-18 15:51 <xarkam> pour python on m'a répondu, mais pour postgresql, quelle version est conseillée ?
2008-11-18 15:52 <cedk> xarkam: on test l'application avec une version au moin 8
2008-11-18 15:53 <xarkam> ok
2008-11-18 15:53 <cedk> xarkam: mais il est fort possible qu'il fonctionne aussi avec une 7
2008-11-18 15:53 <cedk> xarkam: on n'utilise que du code SQL99 normallement
2008-11-18 15:53 <xarkam> vous compez fournir une machine virtuelle vmware pour tester dans l'avenir ?
2008-11-18 15:54 <cedk> xarkam: on a parlé un moment d'un live cd
2008-11-18 15:55 <xarkam> c'est pas un peut lent le live cd ?
2008-11-18 15:55 <cedk> xarkam: on a pas encore testé
2008-11-18 15:57 <xarkam> enfin moi je dit ca, mais avec un ubuntu live. bon c'est vrai que ca charge plein de service.
2008-11-18 15:59 <xarkam> je pensais a une vmx en mode console et le client sur l'hote de la vmx
2008-11-18 15:59 <cedk> xarkam: je me demande si on va pas mettre un serveur publique pour tester
2008-11-18 16:00 <xarkam> c'est une solution
2008-11-18 16:00 <xarkam> une question, pourquoi avoir choisi google wiki ?
2008-11-18 16:02 <cedk> xarkam: on a pas besoin de le gérer et on ne perdra pas des info à cause d'un crash machine (http://openerp.com/forum/topic8267.html) :-)
2008-11-18 16:03 <cedk> xarkam: de tout maniere le wiki, c'est pour les developpeurs, le but est d'avoir la doc avec les sources
2008-11-18 16:03 <xarkam> okay
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2008-11-18 16:39 <cedk> Timitos: did you find a fix for the issue with "/etc/trytond.conf" and egg install ?
2008-11-18 16:40 <Timitos> cedk: no sorry.
2008-11-18 16:42 <cedk> Timitos: I try by removing the first '/' but normal install doesn't work
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2008-11-18 17:26 <panthera> cedk: where can i see the ebuild? official gentoo or somewhere else?
2008-11-18 17:27 <cedk> panthera: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/tryton-overlay/
2008-11-18 17:27 <cedk> panthera: server and client are under app-office
2008-11-18 17:42 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1256:81a1e8ba989b trytond/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Allow egg installation working
2008-11-18 17:43 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 89:697c4e4f926e gentoo-overlay/app-office/trytond/ (Manifest trytond-9999.ebuild): Add install of trytond.conf
2008-11-18 17:46 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1257:4e2644c6d544 trytond/CHANGELOG: Add missing changelog
2008-11-18 17:53 <ecir3_> 1
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2008-11-18 18:51 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 301:988479bdea9b account/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:51 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 19:f7108625822f account_be/setup.py: Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:51 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 190:7e49f90cfc59 account_invoice/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:51 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 21:1edc408d6590 account_product/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:51 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 76:4b2b8325bd85 account_statement/setup.py: Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 49:b3e32f5a5367 analytic_account/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 32:eedce8a418a6 analytic_invoice/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 32:78287423d445 analytic_purchase/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 21:239726f56005 analytic_sale/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 96:3d17b4b697c7 company/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 17:1784f96b7ad8 country/setup.py: Add entry_points in setup.py
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 46:f04c533f6ee4 currency/setup.py: Add entry_points
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 47:1b6b8e9d9b5b currency/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Add missing download_url and changelog
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 29:f93359184f93 google_maps/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 200:cde27bb9b571 party/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 113:69661d920019 product/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 33:1eb5691667dc project/setup.py: Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 20:71eb7ff59166 project_revenue/setup.py: Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 159:3190e07da81e purchase/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 65:e159f67945a4 sale/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:52 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 371:f45f79d58218 stock/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:53 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 140:1291cca015f9 stock_supply/ (CHANGELOG setup.py): Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:53 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 57:7382bcf086dc timesheet/setup.py: Allow egg installation
2008-11-18 18:53 <cedk> udono, Timitos: I push the modification to allow installation with easy_install
2008-11-18 18:54 <cedk> can you test it?
2008-11-18 18:54 <cedk> to generate egg's, just run python setup.py bdist_egg for each module and server
2008-11-18 18:54 <cedk> I push it for now in the developpement repositories
2008-11-18 18:54 <Timitos> cedk: great. i am just sitting on our website. need to finish this. but i will test it after that.
2008-11-18 18:55 <cedk> if it works I will push it in the 1.0 branch
2008-11-18 18:55 <cedk> panthera: I remove in the setup.py the option that install trytond.conf into /etc
2008-11-18 18:56 <cedk> panthera: as it doesn't work with easy_install
2008-11-18 18:56 <cedk> panthera: it is not a issue for trytond because it can run without
2008-11-18 18:56 <cedk> panthera: but it will be good if the configuration file will be installed like I do in the ebuild
2008-11-18 18:56 <panthera> cedk: noted, thanks.
2008-11-18 18:56 <cedk> Timitos: ok, i will wait your feedback
2008-11-18 18:57 <cedk> panthera: it will be for the version >1.0.0
2008-11-18 19:10 <udono> cedk: Timitos. looks good with the eggs
2008-11-18 19:10 <udono> I installed trytond and account, now server finds account
2008-11-18 19:12 <udono> cedk: Processing dependencies for trytond-company==1.1.0
2008-11-18 19:12 <udono> error: Installed distribution trytond 1.1.0 conflicts with requirement trytond<1.1
2008-11-18 19:13 <udono> cedk: same with party
2008-11-18 19:15 <cedk> udono: are they uptodate ?
2008-11-18 19:15 <cedk> udono: because the number version is 1.1.0
2008-11-18 19:15 <udono> I updated all
2008-11-18 19:15 <cedk> udono: what is the version number of party and company ?
2008-11-18 19:16 <udono> party: __tryton__.py: 'version' : '1.1.0',
2008-11-18 19:16 <udono> I make: python setup.py bdist_egg
2008-11-18 19:16 <cedk> udono: can you copy/paste the all output
2008-11-18 19:16 <udono> and then: sudo easy_install .
2008-11-18 19:17 <cedk> udono: did you put all the egg's in the same directory and use it for install
2008-11-18 19:18 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 201:daa723d96476 party/ (party.py party.xml): Add default categories from context and use it in act_party_by_category
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: udo.spallek * r350 /wiki/ProjectOrganization.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: udo.spallek * r351 /wiki/ProjectOrganization.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: udo.spallek * r352 /wiki/ProjectOrganization.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: udo.spallek * r353 /wiki/RFCReportProcessing.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: udo.spallek * r354 /wiki/RFCDocumentation.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: udo.spallek * r355 /wiki/DocumentationClient.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-11-18 19:19 <udono> cedk: no, I try. traceback is: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91646/
2008-11-18 19:19 <udono> cedk: no, but I try...
2008-11-18 19:19 <CIA-34> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 202:77d209f6e57c party/CHANGELOG: Add missing changelog
2008-11-18 19:24 <cedk> udono: what is the content of trytond_party.egg-info/requires.txt
2008-11-18 19:38 <udono> trytond_country
2008-11-18 19:38 <udono> trytond >= 1.1
2008-11-18 19:38 <udono> trytond < 1.2
2008-11-18 19:38 <udono> [VAT]
2008-11-18 19:38 <udono> vatnumber
2008-11-18 19:38 <udono> cedk:
2008-11-18 19:39 <udono> cedk: I copied now all egg-infos into one directory
2008-11-18 19:39 <cedk> udono: did you installed country before ?
2008-11-18 19:41 <udono> cedk: how can I install the egg-infos with easy install?
2008-11-18 19:44 <cedk> udono: what do you call egg-infos?
2008-11-18 19:44 <cedk> udono: you must run easy_install -d . /directory/to/egg/*.egg
2008-11-18 19:48 <udono> cedk: did I need the egg-info files in my directory?
2008-11-18 19:49 <cedk> udono: I don't think so
2008-11-18 20:02 <udono> cedk: ok, I collected all together. Now I cleanup my easy-install.pth
2008-11-18 20:03 <udono> cedk: is openoffice.interact installed by trytond too?
2008-11-18 20:10 <udono> cedk: the -d option seems wrong
2008-11-18 20:10 <udono> --install-dir (-d) install package to DIR
2008-11-18 20:15 <udono> I've got it: sudo easy_install -i . ./trytond_account_invoice-1.1.0-py2.5.egg
2008-11-18 20:32 <udono> the modules seems to install with all dependencies and in the right way: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91663/
2008-11-18 20:35 <udono> cedk: the client tryts to install pygtk, which is already installed...http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91664/
2008-11-18 20:41 <udono> cedk: print gtk.gtk_version
2008-11-18 20:41 <udono> (2, 12, 11)
2008-11-18 20:42 <udono> cedk: I think it works. Only the clientinstallation makes problems with trying to install gtk, which is already installed in version 2.12.11
2008-11-18 21:16 <cedk> udono: it is because yout installation of pygtk from the OS is not egg aware
2008-11-18 21:18 <udono> cedk: its gentoo
2008-11-18 21:18 <cedk> udono: on gentoo, it seems that there is no egg
2008-11-18 21:22 <cedk> udono: what happend if you answer No
2008-11-18 21:22 <udono> it is installed, but not running
2008-11-18 21:22 <cedk> udono: is there error message
2008-11-18 21:23 <udono> cedk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91677/
2008-11-18 21:28 <cedk> udono: don't know how to handle this
2008-11-18 21:29 <cedk> udono: except by removing the requires for pygtk in the setup.py
2008-11-18 21:29 <cedk> udono: any way, it is ok for the server?
2008-11-18 21:38 <cedk> udono: for pygtk, htgoebel maybe know some tricks
2008-11-18 21:42 <udono> cedk: it looks very ok, server starts and all dependencies to account_invoice were fullfilled
2008-11-18 21:43 <cedk> udono: ok, I will push the change in 1.0 branch
2008-11-18 21:43 <udono> I don't know if it loads relatorio automatically and openoffice.interact, cos I did my Installation from Filesystem
2008-11-18 21:44 <udono> cedk: I will check tomorrow morning
2008-11-18 21:46 <cedk> udono: relatorio normally but openoffice.interact is optional
2008-11-18 21:46 <cedk> udono: I check some gtk application in pypi and they don't put pygtk in the requires
2008-11-18 21:46 <cedk> udono: even somes have it commented
2008-11-18 21:46 <cedk> udono: I suppose this is because it breaks stuff
2008-11-18 21:51 -!- alexis__(n=alexis@189.58.73.54.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #tryton
2008-11-18 22:28 <udono> bye
2008-11-18 22:45 -!- yangoon1(n=mathiasb@p549F4A73.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #tryton
2008-11-18 23:03 -!- dtx(n=dtx@cdf-imaging.com) has joined #tryton
2008-11-18 23:04 <dtx> ok, what advantages are there with Tryton over OpenERP?
2008-11-18 23:05 <yangoon1> dtx: http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt
2008-11-18 23:06 <dtx> might want to add that to the FAQ
2008-11-18 23:06 <dtx> :-P
2008-11-18 23:06 <yangoon1> dtx: and AFAIS it is much more community project
2008-11-18 23:06 <yangoon1> dtx: good idea
2008-11-18 23:06 <dtx> Whereas OpenERP is commercial product
2008-11-18 23:07 <yangoon1> dtx: each community project can be commercial product
2008-11-18 23:07 <ikks> Both are commercial
2008-11-18 23:07 <ikks> The difference is the control, sprl editor.
2008-11-18 23:09 <dtx> what is sprl editor mean?
2008-11-18 23:10 <ikks> Tiny sprl is the company that has the control over openerp
2008-11-18 23:10 <dtx> ah
2008-11-18 23:11 <dtx> Who controls Tryton?
2008-11-18 23:11 <dtx> Or what kind of management structure does it have?
2008-11-18 23:14 <Timitos> dtx: the project is managed by the community. but there is the company b2ck which intialized the project.
2008-11-18 23:14 <yangoon1> dtx: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ProjectOrganization
2008-11-18 23:14 <Timitos> dtx: for that they have some strong influence on the project.
2008-11-18 23:15 <yangoon1> back in a minute
2008-11-18 23:15 <dtx> Weird, I was just making a Pylons app with Elixir and was wondering about an easier way to make reports, I guess I should have browsed OpenHex's other projects
2008-11-18 23:15 <Timitos> dtx: but we already discussed some very important topics and there is really a good collaboration here
2008-11-18 23:16 <dtx> But just on a side note
2008-11-18 23:16 <Timitos> :-) tryton uses relatorio from openhex
2008-11-18 23:17 <dtx> Yeah, that's how I just found it
2008-11-18 23:17 <dtx> :-P
2008-11-18 23:17 <dtx> Looks cool
2008-11-18 23:18 <dtx> I remember reading about a similar way of making reports using OpenERP but it was purchase only iirc
2008-11-18 23:19 <dtx> SPRL does that denote Incorporation?
2008-11-18 23:21 <dtx> Are there packages for Ubuntu?
2008-11-18 23:22 <Timitos> dtx: sprl is a company similar to Limited
2008-11-18 23:22 <Timitos> dtx: not yet. but there will be packages for debian perhaps in the next days
2008-11-18 23:23 <Timitos> dtx: we are working on easy_install for tryton in the moment.
2008-11-18 23:23 <dtx> oh cool
2008-11-18 23:23 <dtx> that works too
2008-11-18 23:23 <Timitos> cedk: i get the following error when i try easy_install error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('trytond<1.2')
2008-11-18 23:24 <Timitos> cedk: i tried easy_install with account_module. but it seems that the dependencies are not found on the website
2008-11-18 23:24 <Timitos> dtx: we are working on it ;-)
2008-11-18 23:25 -!- yangoon1(n=mathiasb@p549F4A73.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #tryton
2008-11-18 23:25 <Timitos> cedk: when i try to install trytond with easy_install i get the following error: No local packages or download links found for egenix-mx-base
2008-11-18 23:25 <Timitos> error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('egenix-mx-base')
2008-11-18 23:26 <Timitos> cedk: i think this an ubuntu topic as the package has another name as i remember
2008-11-18 23:27 <Timitos> cedk: i always used this package for ubuntu: python-egenix-mxdatetime
2008-11-18 23:28 -!- saxa(i=1000@host242-95-static.223-217-b.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #tryton
2008-11-18 23:28 <saxa> woow
2008-11-18 23:28 <saxa> lotsa folk in here
2008-11-18 23:28 <dtx> Is that an exaggeration?
2008-11-18 23:28 <dtx> or literally?
2008-11-18 23:28 <saxa> whats the purpose of this fork ?
2008-11-18 23:29 <Timitos> saxa: welcome
2008-11-18 23:29 <saxa> dtx: probably both
2008-11-18 23:29 <saxa> at least this chan seems more alive than the tinyerp one
2008-11-18 23:29 <saxa> thats good
2008-11-18 23:29 <saxa> :)
2008-11-18 23:29 <dtx> I'll field this one: http://www.tryton.org/documentation/faq.html
2008-11-18 23:29 <yangoon1> saxa: what are you looking for?
2008-11-18 23:29 <saxa> need to tryton :))
2008-11-18 23:29 <dtx> look at the last question
2008-11-18 23:29 <ikks> hi saxa, this channel is a lot more responsive.
2008-11-18 23:30 <saxa> ikks: hi
2008-11-18 23:30 <Timitos> saxa: yes it is. you can take a look at irc-logs: http://www.tryton.org/~irclog/
2008-11-18 23:30 <saxa> ikks: i see it
2008-11-18 23:30 <dtx> I'm just here because I read about this project on Python sub-Reddit
2008-11-18 23:30 <saxa> Timitos: hi
2008-11-18 23:30 <yangoon1> saxa: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ProjectOrganization
2008-11-18 23:30 <ikks> saxa, You'll love the issue tracker.
2008-11-18 23:30 <yangoon1> :D
2008-11-18 23:30 <saxa> maybe better to say hi to all of you
2008-11-18 23:30 <saxa> i was looking arround before a little
2008-11-18 23:30 <saxa> and seems interesting
2008-11-18 23:31 <yangoon1> saxa: sorry, wanted to say http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/Tryton_vs_OpenERP.txt
2008-11-18 23:31 <dtx> Where are most devs for this project located out of
2008-11-18 23:31 <saxa> hmm
2008-11-18 23:31 <dtx> Excluding original non-participating OpenERP devs
2008-11-18 23:31 <saxa> anyway i find it good
2008-11-18 23:32 <saxa> concurence is always good
2008-11-18 23:32 <Timitos> dtx: the developpers from b2ck are from belgium. udono, me an yangoon are from germany. there are some guy from france too and some more
2008-11-18 23:32 <yangoon1> dtx: there is no one excluded
2008-11-18 23:32 <saxa> - Use psycopg2 instead of psycopg
2008-11-18 23:32 <saxa> yeay
2008-11-18 23:32 <saxa> finaly
2008-11-18 23:33 <saxa> ACTION is from Slovenija, living in Italy
2008-11-18 23:34 <Timitos> saxa: nice to meet you :-)
2008-11-18 23:34 <saxa> ACTION speaks slovenian, italian, portugues, russian (a little) and english :)
2008-11-18 23:34 <dtx> Man I wish open source software was as widespread here in Oklahoma
2008-11-18 23:34 <saxa> anyway, i can help in my spare time
2008-11-18 23:34 <yangoon1> saxa: so you have already experience with open|tinyerp?
2008-11-18 23:34 <saxa> maybe do some packages or translate something, maybe even python :)
2008-11-18 23:35 <saxa> yangoon1: yup
2008-11-18 23:35 <saxa> i wanted to use it in my company
2008-11-18 23:35 <saxa> and have some troubles with the pricelists
2008-11-18 23:35 <saxa> so everything was postponed
2008-11-18 23:36 <saxa> because this thing is stupid, that you cant update the pricelists prices
2008-11-18 23:36 <saxa> like its in tiny
2008-11-18 23:36 <yangoon1> saxa: you probably need some special account chart for italy?
2008-11-18 23:36 <saxa> i have my company one
2008-11-18 23:36 <saxa> i tried to migrate everything from my company accounting to tiny
2008-11-18 23:36 <saxa> not that difficult
2008-11-18 23:37 <saxa> accounting is ok
2008-11-18 23:37 <saxa> problems in tiny are in products
2008-11-18 23:37 <saxa> then sales module not well connected with purchase
2008-11-18 23:37 <dtx> You can't update the prices in pricelists?
2008-11-18 23:37 <saxa> ACTION speaks for his company
2008-11-18 23:38 <saxa> dtx: you can do it with a module in tiny
2008-11-18 23:38 <saxa> but it updates the price for a fixed percent
2008-11-18 23:38 <Timitos> saxa: we will work on accounting in tryton for the next release. i think accounting in tryton will get better than in openerp
2008-11-18 23:38 <saxa> thats not good for me
2008-11-18 23:38 <saxa> Timitos: thats good to hear
2008-11-18 23:38 <saxa> i will install tryton for sure
2008-11-18 23:38 <Timitos> saxa: a complete translation for italy would be great
2008-11-18 23:39 <Timitos> you can now translate the client and all error messages too
2008-11-18 23:39 <saxa> there is a team already working on openerp italian version
2008-11-18 23:39 <saxa> dont know how much this can apply for tryton
2008-11-18 23:40 <saxa> anyway, I will look at it, and hope that i can find the correct erp here :)
2008-11-18 23:40 <Timitos> i think the translation process is different. i don´t know much about translation in openerp
2008-11-18 23:40 <yangoon1> saxa: perhaps you can take some items, but interface is probably rather different
2008-11-18 23:40 <saxa> Timitos: most of the messages can be the same ones
2008-11-18 23:40 <saxa> CTRL-C CTRL-V can help a lot :)
2008-11-18 23:40 <saxa> I can try to do it yes
2008-11-18 23:41 <saxa> maybe some other persons working in openerp-it can also help with that
2008-11-18 23:41 -!- ikks(n=igor@201.244.188.98) has joined #tryton
2008-11-18 23:41 <saxa> anyway, I was at the time thinking in porting the gtk client to C :)
2008-11-18 23:41 <saxa> I like to program in C
2008-11-18 23:42 <saxa> not much good at it
2008-11-18 23:42 <saxa> but it would be a good experience
2008-11-18 23:42 <dtx> Why would you want to port it to C?
2008-11-18 23:42 <saxa> just to learn better GTK
2008-11-18 23:42 <saxa> :)
2008-11-18 23:43 <saxa> it would be in any case faster than in python
2008-11-18 23:43 <saxa> python sometimes is slow
2008-11-18 23:43 <dtx> Yes, but usually with this kind of software humans are much slower
2008-11-18 23:43 <saxa> but probably thats because of networking issues
2008-11-18 23:43 <dtx> yeah
2008-11-18 23:43 <dtx> or db size
2008-11-18 23:43 <saxa> yup
2008-11-18 23:43 <dtx> unrefined queries, etc.
2008-11-18 23:44 <saxa> just think about my price lists, I have more than 300.000 items in them
2008-11-18 23:44 <Timitos> saxa: try tryton first. there were some optimizations made for performance
2008-11-18 23:44 <saxa> warious ones
2008-11-18 23:44 <dtx> 300,000?
2008-11-18 23:44 <saxa> Timitos: i will
2008-11-18 23:44 <saxa> yup
2008-11-18 23:44 <dtx> how?
2008-11-18 23:44 <saxa> I work with spare parts
2008-11-18 23:44 <dtx> Oh, wow
2008-11-18 23:44 <saxa> for earth moving machines
2008-11-18 23:44 <dtx> ok
2008-11-18 23:45 <saxa> seals, o-rings, pistons, tubes, gaskets, bearings, and much more
2008-11-18 23:45 <dtx> Is the product list not indexed on the product id?
2008-11-18 23:45 <Timitos> saxa: especially for long lists. the limit for records is 20000 in tryton not 80 as in openerp
2008-11-18 23:45 <saxa> just to name few of them
2008-11-18 23:45 <dtx> I have little experience with OpenERP and none with this project so far
2008-11-18 23:45 <saxa> each one has many part numbers
2008-11-18 23:45 <dtx> multiple part numbers for one product?
2008-11-18 23:45 <saxa> Timitos: thats good, but this was not a big issue in openerp
2008-11-18 23:45 <saxa> dtx: correct
2008-11-18 23:46 <saxa> also, replacements
2008-11-18 23:46 <dtx> Or do you mean multiple part numbers in like an assembly of products or something?
2008-11-18 23:46 <saxa> one part is discontinued and then you have a replacement
2008-11-18 23:46 <dtx> oh ok
2008-11-18 23:46 <saxa> dtx: thats also what is needed
2008-11-18 23:46 <saxa> none of this is in tinyerp
2008-11-18 23:46 <dtx> I need something similar to that assembly
2008-11-18 23:46 <saxa> i can help to develop that if you want
2008-11-18 23:47 <dtx> I was thinking about extending it with some sort of macro entry system
2008-11-18 23:47 <saxa> i'm not much good at python, or better have not did anything in it
2008-11-18 23:47 <saxa> but i can explain how things work from my point of view
2008-11-18 23:47 <saxa> and this is mainly a database thing i can say
2008-11-18 23:48 <saxa> btw, how is import in tryton ?
2008-11-18 23:48 <saxa> have you corrected some issues there ?
2008-11-18 23:48 <dtx> why not code a product using some internal code, and then make a lookup window for all the alias part numbers?
2008-11-18 23:48 <saxa> import/export had also troubles in my point of view
2008-11-18 23:48 <Timitos> saxa: there was an issue with big files as i remember. this issue is fixed.
2008-11-18 23:49 <yangoon1> saxa: parser of xml files is now sax;)
2008-11-18 23:49 <saxa> dtx: that can work, but when you work with codes from suppliers it wont work unless you will order each part separately to your supplier
2008-11-18 23:50 <saxa> Timitos: I remember i tried to import 70000 items but it has not worked in tiny
2008-11-18 23:50 <dtx> so the problem is each supplier has their own code for the same product and different iterations of the product, essentially?
2008-11-18 23:50 <saxa> i have all those files handy so i can try with tryton also
2008-11-18 23:51 <Timitos> saxa: i think this is a question for cedk. he can give you some more information about this.
2008-11-18 23:51 <saxa> dtx: i sell CAT, KOMATSU, BERCO, FIAT and other producers parts
2008-11-18 23:51 <Timitos> so there is much to do on tryton and every is welcome to contribute
2008-11-18 23:51 <saxa> dtx: each of those has its own coding system
2008-11-18 23:51 <saxa> ok
2008-11-18 23:52 <saxa> who is the leader of the group ?
2008-11-18 23:52 <saxa> just to know who makes decisions :)
2008-11-18 23:52 <saxa> and when this project started out ?
2008-11-18 23:53 <saxa> btw, have you any plans to develop a better way to personalize the reports ?
2008-11-18 23:53 <Timitos> saxa: what do you need about personalize the reports?
2008-11-18 23:54 <dtx> Are they not OpenDocuments?
2008-11-18 23:54 <dtx> used with Relatorio?
2008-11-18 23:54 <yangoon1> dtx: correct
2008-11-18 23:54 <Timitos> saxa: translations of the reports can be done with the normal translation system of tryton
2008-11-18 23:54 <Timitos> saxa: tryton uses for reports openoffice
2008-11-18 23:56 <dtx> man I am glad I visited this project
2008-11-18 23:56 <saxa> Timitos: I want to make a custom invoice for example, where the fields are printed as i want them
2008-11-18 23:57 <dtx> It will help me in the short term with a website I am setting up, and hopefully I can eventually migrate my ERP over to tryton
2008-11-18 23:57 <saxa> sometimes numbering of each line is needed in a report
2008-11-18 23:57 <dtx> Right now we are using..... Microsoft Dynamics :-(
2008-11-18 23:57 <Timitos> you mean position numbers? this is possible with openoffice out of the box i think.
2008-11-18 23:58 <saxa> Timitos: yes, but i dont know if oo prints the numbers
2008-11-18 23:58 <Timitos> saxa: you can talk to udono about that. he tested the report engine most of us
2008-11-18 23:58 <saxa> probably yes
2008-11-18 23:58 <saxa> Timitos: ok
2008-11-18 23:58 <saxa> anyway will download the sources and try to install it on my slamd64 machine
2008-11-18 23:59 <saxa> I even bought the tinyerp book :)
2008-11-18 23:59 <Timitos> saxa: :-D
2008-11-18 23:59 <yangoon1> saxa: ebay;)
2008-11-18 23:59 <dtx> Is there a command line to convert odt to pdfs?
2008-11-19 00:00 <saxa> as I think this is usefull but from a first look it wasnt so much

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