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| 2011-03-30 01:21 <sharoon> anybody here who is applying for GSOC as a student ? | ||
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| 2011-03-30 09:44 <Guest80024> Hi Everyone. | ||
| 2011-03-30 09:46 <plantian> hello | ||
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| 2011-03-30 13:19 <caravel> hellooo | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:23 <caravel> what's up on your side gentle(wo)men ? I am intetested in two things in particular, 1) POS and 2) Magento link. I thought I remembered 1) was already there, but I was mistaking apparently (? cf. wikipedia). As per 2), are these the latest devs ? http://projects.openlabs.co.in/trac/openlabs_magento http://projects.openlabs.co.in/hg_public/openlabs/tryton-magento http://code.google.com/p/tryton-magento/source/checkout | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:28 <yangoon> caravel: hi | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:29 <yangoon> caravel: for magento connector you should ask sharoon | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:29 <caravel> yangoon: thanks for your answer | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:29 <caravel> ACTION has a XML/Perl/Linux guy, tries to help out (for free ^^) a tiny food retail w/physical and online stores, the latter based on Magento & Joomla, and all desperate for some proper stock management, at last ;-) | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:31 <yangoon> ACTION wondering if a *tiny* store running magento is the best choice | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:32 <caravel> ACTION had not been involved when this decision happens, unfortunately :) | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:32 <caravel> *was taken, I mean | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:32 <caravel> hoping to "save the bizz from the crisis" they have opportunities for b2b platforms, and myself I'd rather all this go built upon Tryton than OpenERP even if it was more work... as long as the target is reachable ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:33 <caravel> today they upload xls to mage using "some" script, you know ^^ time to make it manageable | ||
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| 2011-03-30 13:34 <yangoon> caravel: welcome anyway, since magento is hyped all over and a connector for tryton would be a fine feature | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:39 <caravel> as per the POS, p+ at least seems to advertise for some achievements ? is there anywhere I can find any sort of POS info around ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:41 <caravel> ACTION has yet another silly question : has anyone tried to get Tryton run on a low consumption box e.g. a linutop 2 ? :D or should I "just forget it!!" ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:42 <caravel> (Lenny running on that one) | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:42 <cedk> caravel: I guess you can have the server starting but it will depend of your usage | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:43 <cedk> caravel: request/s, amount of data etc. | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:43 <caravel> cedk: 3 people connecting via gtk clients + 2 pos, one of the lightest duty I guess ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:44 <caravel> ACTION assumes that mage sync would happen periodically eg nightly | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:46 <caravel> (anyone from p+ around, or should I look at #tryton-es I guess?) | ||
| 2011-03-30 13:56 <caravel> and today I can see "only" 836 products in mage backend, which is maybe half of the total refs to enter | ||
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| 2011-03-30 13:59 <cedk> we got a requets here to improve the one2many dialog box management | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:01 <cedk> the request is that when you add a new line to a one2many looping on creation of line is not always desired | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:01 <cedk> what do you think about having 3 buttons in the dialog for Cancel, Ok&Close, Ok&New | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:12 <caravel> ACTION would say this is best practice, suggest also eg. Enter/Ctrl+Enter shortcuts ^^ (and will keep quiet, sorry folks) | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:12 <caravel> before I leave you in peace, is the Spanigh community any active ? http://www.trytonerp.es/ is offline, was it abandoned ? Is P+ still in the loop ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:13 <caravel> *Spanish | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:14 <cedk> caravel: shortcuts already there :-) | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:14 <cedk> caravel: don't know about trytonerp.es | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:15 <bechamel> cedk: +1 for the new button | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:16 <cedk> bechamel: other possibility is to have a attribute in xml view to define the behavior of the Ok button | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:16 <cedk> caravel: be the one to reactivate the spanish community ;-) | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:17 <cedk> bechamel: but I don't like it | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:22 <caravel> cedk: yeah right, -- if you guys ever need "bullet" professional pdfs or eg. FO output, I could definitly be one of your es/en/fr community men. | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:22 <caravel> As per the erp itself, not quite :) | ||
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| 2011-03-30 14:22 <caravel> If I encourage the retail bizz which brings me here, to follow the Tryton route, no doubt they'll need service soon or later (in essence, as soon as they can afford it), but they're not fluent in English or French. So, the lack of a Spanish support option, would be simply a show stopper :( Is it really asleep at this point ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:23 <bechamel> cedk: this button is useful everywhere imo | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:26 <cedk> bechamel: yes and I think it better to have the same behavior everywhere | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:26 <cedk> caravel: did you ping guys on #tryton-es ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:26 <cedk> caravel: or sent email to the mailing list? | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:28 <caravel> cedk: yes I did ping (2 users and 1 bot, zero activity in the past days irc logs), and no, I didn't send an email | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:28 <caravel> do you guys integrate much SPanish translations from anyone, or not any more for long, maybe ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:29 <caravel> ACTION will look at Tryton commits and get that answer alone | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:29 <cedk> caravel: did not see Spanish translation since sometimes | ||
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| 2011-03-30 14:40 <caravel> ACTION can't find any spanish thingy in hg since 2008, besides splitting locale for Columbian ? (ouch) | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:56 <caravel> ACTION pings nicoe | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:57 <nicoe> caravel: Yep | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:57 <caravel> nicoe: achieved to meet anyone in Barça last Feb ? ^^ | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:58 <nicoe> caravel: I am afraid my spanish is not that good, because you did not understand me | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:58 <nicoe> caravel: I will go to Barcelona in may | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:58 <caravel> you're spanish is just fine, I just read your email way too fast (sincere apology) | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:59 <nicoe> caravel: It has been a long time since I did not spoke spanish | ||
| 2011-03-30 14:59 <nicoe> So I am really rusted on that level | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:00 <caravel> nicoe: so, had any feedback by pm, as yet, or just a big silence ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:00 <nicoe> caravel: a big silence I am afraid :( | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:01 <caravel> ACTION is trying to assess whether there remain just *anyone* on the service side in Spain, but it just look like it is some desert now :/ will let you now and keep an eye on the lists ! | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:02 <caravel> bye all, thanks/merci, un plaisir | ||
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| 2011-03-30 15:06 <nicoe> caravel: did you try to write to p+ directly ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:08 <caravel> nicoe: I thought I would even call them, but now, it seems to me quite clear, that they're not really involved w/Tryton anymore (searched any sign of activity anywhere, no luck) | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:10 <caravel> nicoe: I mean, how could they have not updated the account module ? or would they have given up to contribute back ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:10 <caravel> *the plan, I mean | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:13 <nicoe> I don't know, maybe they are busy or something. The safest way to go is probably to call them and see what they say | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:13 <caravel> I will. Thanks again for your comments, folks. Have a nice day | ||
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| 2011-03-30 15:24 <nicoe> Have a nice day | ||
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| 2011-03-30 15:30 <caravel> ACTION is only guessing, but this seems to say it all (PE.MA.S) http://www.linkedin.com/in/carlosperello | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:46 <sharoon> caravel: Hi, are you interested in the magento project ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:51 <caravel> sharoon: I would be, yes (see my comments and questions above) | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:56 <sharoon> caravel: regarding the tryton magento project - its still active | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:56 <sharoon> we developed the python module to easily talk with magento | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:56 <sharoon> we have put the foundations for the tryton module as well | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:57 <sharoon> we were/are troubled by the EAV design pattern. For small stores like yours with < 2000 products ots not a problem, but we have customers with over 30000 products (surprise: they use magento) | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:58 <sharoon> so the last design idea to experiment was NOSQL (Not only SQL) schemaless database and we have successfully integrated tryton with mongo db yesterday | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:59 <sharoon> of course this introduces issues including management of transaction and atomicity and hence is not good enough to be merged with Tryton mainstream - but could always exist as a separate entity | ||
| 2011-03-30 15:59 <sharoon> anyway - thats the update from dev | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:00 <caravel> sharoon: that sounds great (learned a bit about NOSQL concepts a few months ago). Does the project sets on the links I posted above, and would you say it could be functional, yet, to attempt a real life implementation ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:00 <caravel> *sits | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:01 <sharoon> yes | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:01 <sharoon> openlabs_magento is the repository where the python module resides. | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:01 <sharoon> the other repo holds the magento module | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:01 <sharoon> the mongodb backend is a different module - yet to be pushed | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:02 <sharoon> please be warned that the mongodb design introduces a lot of risks/problems - which we can live with in the case of magento - because the primary source of attributes is not Tryton but Magento | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:04 <sharoon> and it will be better for you to read the IRC logs a couple of days back - where me and cedk discussed the NOSQL design - he has several arguments against NOSQL and all are true - except that we dont have a "practical" alternative | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:05 <caravel> sharoon: I see, let me read thanks | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:05 <caravel> ACTION tried, by the way, to call PEMAS : no answer as I was guessing, looks like a one-man/family venture cf. http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosarioperello. Has any of the larger OpenERP Spanish partner, ever looked into tryton so far ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:11 <yangoon> cedk: bechamel nicoe et al: (14:01:51) for cedk: what do you think about having 3 buttons in the dialog for Cancel, Ok&Close, Ok&New | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:11 <yangoon> absolutely +5 | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:12 <yangoon> I am missing this since the beginning and already said it long ago | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:12 <nicoe> caravel: The guy behind the twitter account @neopolus is spanish and have tested tryton. I guess you can push it to test it even further and do some stuff with you | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:13 <yangoon> together with shortcut F10 for Save&Ok, F9 Save&New | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:13 <sharoon> 3 buttons in the dialog is a "honking great idea -- lets do more of those" ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:14 <cedk> yangoon: I prefer: CTRL+Enter and CTRL+SHIFT+Enter which is standard | ||
| 2011-03-30 16:16 <caravel> ACTION will parasite a bit more : F* should be avoided as dialogue exit codes, please show some love to the poor users :) +1 for cedk | ||
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| 2011-03-30 20:26 <zodman> its hg.tryton.org down ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 20:34 <heg> zodman: hg2.tryton.org | ||
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| 2011-03-30 22:08 <jcm> hi, trying to set a category parent but cat2.parent = cat1 is erroneous as well as cat2.parent = cat1.id ; should I use One2Many to set a parent ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:17 <plantian> The first one seems to work for me. | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:18 <plantian> Where are you doing the modification ? | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:18 <jcm> I'm trying this in python console with proteus | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:18 <plantian> Did you call save on both categories? | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:20 <plantian> I'm not 100% sure of the usage but that's an idea. | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:21 <jcm> I get all categs : cats = Category.find() then cats[0].name = 'Publications' and cats[0].save | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:22 <jcm> then cats[1].name = 'Livres' and cats[1].parent = cats[0] shows assert value.id > 0 and not value._changed | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:24 <jcm> tried cats[1].parent = cats[0].id and got assert isinstance(value, (Model, NoneType)) | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:29 <plantian> Looks like you might need to save them before hooking them together. | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:30 <plantian> Which seems really weird to me. | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:31 <plantian> jcm: Does this work? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/362916/ | ||
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| 2011-03-30 22:38 <jcm> right, it works | ||
| 2011-03-30 22:41 <jcm> works too without the cats[1].save line :/ strange. | ||
| 2011-03-30 23:08 <jcm> in the gtk client, why do I have two 'name' columns in categories? the second one should be 'parent name' I guess | ||
| 2011-03-30 23:09 <jcm> is it possible to configure somewhere what fields are to be showed in such lists (in the client, not in the server code) | ||
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| 2011-03-30 23:32 <plantian> jcm: I don't think so. Are you using some builtin category or making your own? | ||
| 2011-03-30 23:49 <jcm> I'm trying to import some data with a script using proteus, so I test to see the result in the client | ||
| 2011-03-30 23:56 <plantian> jcm: Yeah I wasn't sure which category showed two names, doesn't seem like product category or party category. |
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