IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2012-06-04

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Jun 4 00:00:01 CEST 2012
2012-06-04 13:50 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: ping
2012-06-04 13:53 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: pong
2012-06-04 13:54 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: was looking at https://bitbucket.org/grasbauer/product_variant
2012-06-04 13:54 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: do you use the module in production ?
2012-06-04 13:55 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: I think there are changes - but in general we are develepoping a project, which is using this approach
2012-06-04 13:56 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: how do you handle price variations on variants ?
2012-06-04 13:58 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: this is not handled by the main module - we have a second module, which handles different prices for customergroups and special offers for variants. but we are thinking about the posibilities to include this in the module product_variant
2012-06-04 13:59 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: are you thinking of adding some extra property field on `product.product` which will also affect `get_sale_price` ?
2012-06-04 14:01 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: in our second module we have converted list_price to a function field - it depends of a lot of context
2012-06-04 14:02 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: so you added list_price to 'product.product' ?
2012-06-04 14:03 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: wait - I'll take a look
2012-06-04 14:05 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: it's in a very early stage - but yes
2012-06-04 14:06 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: thank you so much, is cedk planning to include the module in std list ?
2012-06-04 14:06 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: don't know
2012-06-04 14:07 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: would you be interested if I fork the project and add the feature of list price (like you have implemented) to this module ?
2012-06-04 14:07 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: the second module is handling gross price - it's for selling products in online shops
2012-06-04 14:07 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: coincidence, :) its the same purpose here
2012-06-04 14:09 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: so we are generating final sale prices in reverse engeneering gross_prices omitted from an online cart
2012-06-04 14:10 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: we discussed this approach already here in irc - and there where a lot of cons aginst this ...
2012-06-04 14:10 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: let me google the logs
2012-06-04 14:11 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: is this the conversation ? http://www.tryton.org/~irclog/fr/2011-12-22.log.html
2012-06-04 14:12 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: no - don't know french
2012-06-04 14:12 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: same here :P
2012-06-04 14:13 -!- sharoonthomas(~sharoonth@122.177.234.152) has left #tryton
2012-06-04 14:13 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: the most important con was a possible rounding error - but ' i don't think that it is an issue
2012-06-04 14:14 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: may be it would be better just to have an extra property field (probably variant_price_difference) which the price list could then worry about ?
2012-06-04 14:15 <sharoonthomas> does anybody remember the cons or the link to the discussion ?
2012-06-04 14:16 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: yes - why not. and having a custom get_sale_price can handle a lot of stuff ...
2012-06-04 14:16 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: i think that would be the fastest and flexible way to go
2012-06-04 14:18 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: we do it like this: we have a customer in context with his own tax rules or we take the customer_taxes_used from product
2012-06-04 14:20 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: in short: we added a field net_price to the template - and list_price now is a function which depends on the context ....
2012-06-04 14:20 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: interesting
2012-06-04 14:22 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: net_price in general without a context has the former function of list price: no context means that list_price == net_price
2012-06-04 14:22 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: ok
2012-06-04 14:22 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: did u get a chance to look at nereid ? we have published some documentation too
2012-06-04 14:24 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: yes - looks good. and we discussed this here in a meeting
2012-06-04 14:26 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: there ar people whos says: "Let Tryton be the ERP and let the CMS be CMS" and some ist prefering your approach to have more functions of a cms handy in tryton
2012-06-04 14:27 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: well there will always be two schools of thought, but having integrated different s/w with openerp/tryton I prefer the approach we took with nereid, but of course a lot of people may not agree
2012-06-04 14:28 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: this is a bit like talking about religion ;)
2012-06-04 14:28 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: true :D
2012-06-04 14:30 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: one point is, that we have already done a lot of stuff in the cms - and now we need to translate it to tryton
2012-06-04 14:30 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: ok
2012-06-04 14:31 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: all the stuff with SEO, permissions, moving content etc is already present in the cms
2012-06-04 14:31 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: wow, that should be quite some work… we have a simple cms module for nereid, just the plain basic stuff
2012-06-04 14:32 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: yes - the cms is the result of 3 years serving clients
2012-06-04 14:37 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: but anyway - it would be nice to have the price variants in the main module pf product_variant
2012-06-04 14:38 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: I think it is not to complicated
2012-06-04 14:40 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: will try our best, you can think of merging it if you find it ok
2012-06-04 14:41 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: you gonna make a fork?
2012-06-04 14:41 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: yep, will send you a pull request once we make the changes we do
2012-06-04 14:42 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: nice! you are welcome!
2012-06-04 14:47 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: the repository on bitbucket is not up2date - because we have a second internal repository
2012-06-04 14:47 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: i thought so because the version says the 2.3 dev version
2012-06-04 14:49 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: will you be updating the public repo or is the code internal to your org ?
2012-06-04 14:50 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: no - it is only because internally we are using subversion - i will push the current stage to bitbucket
2012-06-04 14:52 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: thanks
2012-06-04 14:57 <grasbauer> sharoonthomas: I pushed it - don't know if it is stable - but there are the changes for 2.4.
2012-06-04 14:57 <sharoonthomas> grasbauer: thanks, will fork again
2012-06-04 23:01 <byte4n> hi
2012-06-04 23:01 <byte4n> good night
2012-06-04 23:14 <byte4n> does ant body knows if there is any connector to magento or opencart?
2012-06-04 23:15 <cedk> byte4n: I'm wondering if Openlabs did not write one
2012-06-04 23:16 <byte4n> cedk: thks iwould search in this way, any experience before?¿
2012-06-04 23:18 <cedk> byte4n: but they just release nereid which should be a full CMS integrated in Tryton
2012-06-04 23:18 <cedk> byte4n: so normally it should come with an ecommerce
2012-06-04 23:19 <byte4n> cedk: interesting, any recomended link?
2012-06-04 23:20 <cedk> byte4n: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Nereid/2.4.0.2
2012-06-04 23:23 <byte4n> cedk: thks a lot

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