IRC logs of #tryton for Wednesday, 2009-02-04

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2009-02-04 09:44 <cristi_an> hi
2009-02-04 09:44 <cristi_an> on the accounting module there are handled fixed assests ?
2009-02-04 09:45 <cristi_an> and some formula for ,calculating amortization ?
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2009-02-04 10:14 <cristi_an> bechamel: have you heard of "La forme de comptabilite maitreechess" or "par registres" ?
2009-02-04 10:17 <bechamel> cristi_an: not at all
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2009-02-04 10:37 <cristi_an> cedk: have you heard of "La forme de comptabilite maitreechess" or "par registres" ?
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2009-02-04 10:37 <cedk> cristi_an: no
2009-02-04 10:52 <cedk> cristi_an: have you some links?
2009-02-04 10:54 <cristi_an> unfortunatelly no it is a book that i have with accounting methods from romania that has the "Sommaire" translated into french
2009-02-04 10:55 <cedk> cristi_an: "par registres" seems to make reference to manual accounting
2009-02-04 10:56 <cedk> cristi_an: be carefull that most of the time, those kind of books give trick to make accounting, not only the mandatory part
2009-02-04 10:58 <cristi_an> cedk: agree they confused me more !!!
2009-02-04 10:59 <cristi_an> btw there are some reports theat here are a must : like a list with all moments that an account has
2009-02-04 10:59 <cristi_an> is this done in tryton accounting module ?
2009-02-04 10:59 <cristi_an> /movements
2009-02-04 11:03 <cedk> cristi_an: I think you talk about "General Legder"
2009-02-04 11:10 <cristi_an> cedk: thx
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2009-02-04 12:00 <CIA-10> tryton: ian@igentoo.localhost default * 477:569ca3455ed5 stock/location.py: Check location for invalid type change.
2009-02-04 12:00 <CIA-10> tryton: Ian Wilson <ian@laspilitas.com> default * 478:b3eb838d894a stock/ (location.py move.py packing.py): Add view location type, update domain restrictions.
2009-02-04 12:00 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #760/View Location Type: [resolved] Applied
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2009-02-04 13:31 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1515:0d5573b2edcc trytond/trytond/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Move TableHandler into backend and create a TableHandlerInterface
2009-02-04 13:31 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 376:66d882219d76 account/journal.py: Use new TableHandler
2009-02-04 13:31 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 262:6614030b1725 account_invoice/ (invoice.py payment_term.py): Use new TableHandler
2009-02-04 13:32 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 223:1e9388cef139 purchase/purchase.py: Use new TableHandler
2009-02-04 13:32 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 115:dae9f8685152 sale/sale.py: Use new TableHandler
2009-02-04 13:32 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 479:df46d2720e79 stock/packing.py: Use new TableHandler
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2009-02-04 13:57 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 480:a0b5c18f8921 stock/location.py:
2009-02-04 13:57 <CIA-10> tryton: Check context value in get_quantity on stock.location
2009-02-04 13:57 <CIA-10> tryton: Verify that the product id from context has a real product record
2009-02-04 14:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 224:cb1437faaea4 purchase/purchase.py: Remove dead code
2009-02-04 14:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 225:8358967a2e5b purchase/purchase.py: Ignore duplicated moves when copying purchase line
2009-02-04 14:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 226:b94ce87f16b0 purchase/ (purchase.py purchase.xml): Better name for exception state field on move
2009-02-04 14:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 116:30121f39ac6f sale/ (sale.py sale.xml): Handle packing exceptions
2009-02-04 14:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 481:c14eab85a391 stock/packing.py: Fix: removed wrong test in set_state_done for outgoing packing
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2009-02-04 15:29 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1516:fd961e7c43c5 trytond/ (13 files in 8 dirs): Remove sql_db and add database in backend
2009-02-04 15:35 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1517:b232ead1f76a trytond/trytond/backend/postgresql/database.py: Use cursor query to display wrong SQL
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2009-02-04 17:13 <bechamel> cristi_an: I forgot to tell you that the demo server is back online
2009-02-04 17:27 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1518:7cba854f43f5 trytond/trytond/model/modelstorage.py: Fix translation in copy of ModelStorage
2009-02-04 17:27 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1519:aec785ab8362 trytond/ (CHANGELOG trytond/model/modelstorage.py): copy on ModelStorage copies one2many directly on the right record
2009-02-04 17:29 <cristi_an> bechamel: thx
2009-02-04 17:49 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 482:4348273760de stock/location.py: Check context value in view_header_get on stock.location
2009-02-04 17:49 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 483:321e721eef5c stock/: merge
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2009-02-04 21:05 <carlos> cedk: Hi, are you around?
2009-02-04 21:24 <panthera> i'm finishing up the trython-server .debs; one thing is confusing me
2009-02-04 21:25 <panthera> in INSTALL you list openoffice python bindings from
2009-02-04 21:25 <panthera> http://openoffice-python.origo.ethz.ch/
2009-02-04 21:25 <panthera> whereas the wiki speaks about python-uno, which is clearly not the same thing.
2009-02-04 21:25 <panthera> so which one of those is the correct one?
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2009-02-04 21:34 <bechamel> panthera: i think that python-uno is a dependency of openoffice-python
2009-02-04 21:46 <panthera> hm, ok. so i do have to package those openoffice-python stuff as well.
2009-02-04 21:46 <cedk> carlos: yes
2009-02-04 21:47 <cedk> panthera: openoffice stuff are optional dependency
2009-02-04 21:47 <panthera> i know, we have the term 'recommends' for that.
2009-02-04 21:51 <cedk> panthera: where on the wiki?
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2009-02-04 21:57 <carlos> cedk: hi
2009-02-04 21:58 <carlos> cedk: I wonder whether you have any marketing material for Tryton
2009-02-04 21:58 <cedk> panthera: ok, I think I have put a better indentation on wiki page
2009-02-04 21:59 <carlos> we were asked for a Tryton 'brochure' from a possible customer for something unrelated with ERP that is going for a MS based solution, but they still want to know about Tryton
2009-02-04 21:59 <cedk> carlos: all we had is on the website
2009-02-04 21:59 <carlos> ok
2009-02-04 21:59 <cedk> carlos: but we can work together to provide the needs
2009-02-04 22:00 <yangoon> panthera hi
2009-02-04 22:00 <yangoon> panthera: which stuff did you have to pack additionally?
2009-02-04 22:01 <yangoon> pywebdav , vatnumber and openoffice.interact I suppose
2009-02-04 22:03 <cedk> those are only recommends
2009-02-04 22:04 <yangoon> yes, but recommends have to be packed too, if you want to list them
2009-02-04 22:04 <yangoon> otherwise the package management cannot know about it
2009-02-04 22:04 <cedk> this can not be made step by step
2009-02-04 22:06 <yangoon> cedk: packaging the recommends?
2009-02-04 22:08 <panthera> policy dictates that recommends have to be self-contained in the suit you're uploading to;
2009-02-04 22:08 <panthera> any package that doesn't will be rejected from new.
2009-02-04 22:08 <panthera> however, one could use suggests. they are handled more relaxed, and by default not installed automatically.
2009-02-04 22:12 <carlos> cedk: sure, I'm talking with Timitos about this too
2009-02-04 22:13 <carlos> cedk: I will try to provide with some ideas and share it so it can be reused
2009-02-04 22:14 <cedk> panthera: I was suggering step by step to reach the distribution faster
2009-02-04 22:15 <yangoon> panthera: can suggests be upgraded easily to recommends later?
2009-02-04 22:15 <panthera> cedk: it's a matter of half an hour more or less
2009-02-04 22:15 <panthera> yangoon: yep
2009-02-04 22:16 <yangoon> panthera: if you can afford the time, it would be nicer to have openoffice.interact as rcommend
2009-02-04 22:16 <yangoon> I think it will be used usually very often
2009-02-04 22:18 <panthera> jup
2009-02-04 22:19 <yangoon> great, better to have a working print button;)
2009-02-04 22:21 <CIA-10> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r433 /wiki/InstallationMercurial.wiki: Better indentation for Ooo stuffs
2009-02-04 22:30 <cedk> yangoon: have you any issue with the print button?
2009-02-04 22:36 <yangoon> cedk: no, not at all, was a lapse by me
2009-02-04 22:37 <cedk> yangoon: by the way, we will set all reports in readonly mode
2009-02-04 22:37 <cedk> like that it will be open by the client in readonly mode
2009-02-04 22:37 <yangoon> cedk: why?
2009-02-04 22:39 <cedk> yangoon: Ooo open it faster and it prevent user to modify it by mistake
2009-02-04 22:39 <cedk> but the end user will be still able to edit it by clicking on edit button
2009-02-04 22:42 <yangoon> cedk: yes, its a reasonable default, which can easily be changed
2009-02-04 22:42 <cedk> yangoon: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ODTGuideLines
2009-02-04 22:43 <cedk> we think about a tool to modify on the fly odt files
2009-02-04 22:46 <yangoon> cedk: the way like the openoffice editor from openerp?
2009-02-04 22:47 <cedk> yangoon: no
2009-02-04 22:47 <cedk> yangoon: just a python script
2009-02-04 22:48 <cedk> yangoon: the openoffice editor has limited possibilities
2009-02-04 22:50 <yangoon> yangoon: yes, and I don't see the real great use of it
2009-02-04 22:52 <yangoon> cedk: but what will do the script you are planning?
2009-02-04 22:52 <cedk> yangoon: making simple stuff like putting the odt in readonly
2009-02-04 22:52 <cedk> yangoon: or change a font
2009-02-04 22:53 <cedk> it is for the case, of a company that has a font that must be used on every reports
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2009-02-04 22:54 <cedk> it is boring to open each reports and change it, even if it is just a question of minutes
2009-02-04 22:55 <yangoon> is it possible to replace exactly by the tag used? I think of reports with some different fonts.
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2009-02-04 22:58 <carlos> cedk: still, having the helpers that openerp's oo editor give you to extract data from Tryton is still useful
2009-02-04 22:59 <carlos> so you don't need to know all the fields name
2009-02-04 22:59 <cedk> yangoon: I don't know, it is just a though, nothing is planned for now
2009-02-04 23:00 <cedk> carlos: it doesn't work correctly because the dataset on which you doesn't give you all the possibilities
2009-02-04 23:00 <cedk> carlos: and by the way, the relatorio syntax is more powerfull
2009-02-04 23:01 <cedk> carlos: like the last functionnality added: loop on tables columns
2009-02-04 23:01 <carlos> well, I don't talk about their syntax
2009-02-04 23:01 <carlos> but about functionality
2009-02-04 23:01 <cedk> carlos: but functionality is linked to the syntax
2009-02-04 23:02 <carlos> being able to retrieve all product attributes in a graphical way
2009-02-04 23:02 <carlos> so you don't need to look for it is quite useful when you are creating a new report
2009-02-04 23:03 <cedk> experiences have showed that "clicked developement" don't generate good programs
2009-02-04 23:03 <carlos> ACTION is talking more about autocompletion than code autogeneration
2009-02-04 23:04 <panthera> all depends/recommends uploaded now..
2009-02-04 23:04 <cedk> carlos: in reports you don't know exactly what you have
2009-02-04 23:04 <carlos> cedk: I never used the openERP's OO editor so I only know about the option to retrieve all attributes available
2009-02-04 23:04 <panthera> initscript and adduser stuff for tryton-server left.
2009-02-04 23:04 <cedk> panthera: good
2009-02-04 23:05 <cedk> panthera: you can look at the init script I write for the ebuild
2009-02-04 23:05 <panthera> thanks, will do.
2009-02-04 23:05 <cedk> carlos: I know that autocompletion can be usefull even when writing codes
2009-02-04 23:06 <cedk> carlos: but it is only for starters
2009-02-04 23:06 <carlos> that's true
2009-02-04 23:07 <cedk> panthera: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/tryton-overlay/file/tip/app-office/trytond/files/trytond-init.d
2009-02-04 23:07 <yangoon> panthera: I also just uploaded an enhanced version of the denian initscripts to the files section some days ago
2009-02-04 23:07 <cedk> carlos: after it has the opposite effect :-)
2009-02-04 23:08 <yangoon> panthera: http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/web/debian_sample_initscripts.tar.bz2 if you want to have a look at them
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2009-02-04 23:15 <carlos> cedk: well, I don't think is something bad when you are not an starter... but I agree that the effort required may not pay the users that will find it useful
2009-02-04 23:18 <CIA-10> tryton: mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r434 /wiki/InstallationOnDebian.wiki: added pyopenssl to optional deps
2009-02-04 23:40 <carlos> ACTION -> bed
2009-02-04 23:40 <carlos> good night!

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