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| 2010-04-06 13:12 <cheche> morning... | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:13 <cheche> I am trying to print my first invoice but I get an error saying "no period defeind for this date" | ||
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| 2010-04-06 13:14 <yangoon> cheche: you can do it under 'Fiscal Years' | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:19 <cheche> yangoon: thanks, BTW what are those secuence all about? | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:21 <cheche> It complains about debit account on journal missing. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:22 <cheche> Is there a way for me to donwload the Open chart of accounts and Chart of taxes for Spain? | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:31 <paepke> cheche, the sequences are for invoice numbers and stuff. to have the different vouchers separated. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:31 <paepke> cheche, spain chart of accountd don't know. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:33 <cheche> paepke: what is the meaning of Post Move sequence? | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:34 <udono> cheche: hi, | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:34 <cheche> I do understant customer invoice and supplier invoice. but I am not sure what is the meaning of credit note sequence | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:34 <cheche> hi udono | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:35 <paepke> cheche, credit note is when you get back some supplied goods. and you have to pay back the customer. and vice versa. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:36 <cheche> ah ok. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:36 <udono> cheche: Post move sequence is the numbering format of the accounting moves. A move contains one or more move lines. moves are like the atoms of accounting. Their balance must be zero. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:36 <cheche> got it. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:36 <yangoon> cheche COA for Spain -> aks to carlos | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:38 <cheche> carlos at pemas.es ? | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:38 <yangoon> chyes | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:38 <yangoon> cheche: yes | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:40 <cheche> yangoon: ok, I have drop him and email | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:41 <udono> cheche: http://hg.pemas.es/tryton/account_es_abbreviated/ | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:41 <udono> http://hg.pemas.es/tryton/account_es_regular/ | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:44 <cheche> udono: how do you import that module under tryton? | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:45 <udono> cheche: go to http://hg.pemas.es/tryton/ and download them as zip or tar.gz | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:46 <udono> cheche: then you need to put the modules into the trytond/modules folder | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:48 <cheche> udono: I guess that the right folder is this one: /usr/share/python-support/tryton-server/trytond/modules/ | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:49 <udono> cheche: I don't know, but it looks good | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:49 <yangoon> cheche: you didi install by setup.py, correct? | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:51 <cheche> no, I used the debian packages that dba set up yesterday. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:51 <cheche> http://casa.apertus.es/blog/2010/04/05/tryton-debian-lenny/ | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:51 <udono> cheche: ... and be warned: these modules are not released yet. Expect any kind of problems... | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:51 <cheche> udono: I am just evaluating the program | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:52 <cheche> I want to know: How easy is to replace as a sales managment. | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:55 <cheche> for a small company | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:57 <cheche> I found very very easy to setup tryton with those packages. but I got a bit lost, my intention is at least docummented on my blog ... so no worries if something does not quite work | ||
| 2010-04-06 13:59 <udono> cheche: where to find your blog? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:01 <udono> sorry, Ic | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:01 <cheche> nah | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:04 <cheche> I do not know how to install that account module | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:04 <cheche> I have got this error: | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:04 <cheche> error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('trytond<0.10') | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:05 <cheche> ERROR:modules:account_es_2008:Module not found! | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:06 <udono> cheche: so the module seems to old | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:06 <udono> cheche: are you willing to edit text files with an editor? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:06 <cheche> sure | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:07 <udono> cheche: which version of tryton you use? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:07 <cheche> Tryton 1.4.3 | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:08 <udono> cheche: edit modules/account_es_2008/__tryton__.py and replace 'version'... with 'version': '1.4.0', | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:09 <udono> cheche: but I am unsure if the containing data in the module really work for trytond version 1.4.0... | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:11 <cheche> error: Setup script exited with error: build/bdist.linux-i686-py2.5_ucs4/dumb/egenix_mx_base-3.1.3-py2.5.egg-info: Is a directory | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:12 <cheche> udono: just a question... to create and print an invoice is this Chart needed? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:12 <udono> cheche: which you are using: account_es_abbreviated or account_es_regular ? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:12 <udono> cheche: no, you always can use the included minimal account chart | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:13 <udono> cheche: you need a localized chart only for serious bookkeeping... | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:13 <cheche> udono: account_es_abbreviated as I thought that could be more simple | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:14 <cheche> ok, udono, if I want to print an invoice what should be the standard procedure that I need to follow. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:14 <cheche> After you install all the requiered modules | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:15 <cheche> I create the company info | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:15 <udono> cheche: ok. So when you only want to test invoice, just create a fiscal year and create sequences and periods. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:15 <udono> all be done under Financial Management > configuration > fiscalyear | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:16 <cheche> I just did that | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:16 <udono> cheche: ok, do you have a customer party? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:16 <cheche> I did one for testing | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:17 <udono> cheche: create a payment term for this party under the parties tab accounting | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:17 <udono> cheche: sth like 10 days net | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:18 <cheche> I did a cash payment 0 days and 100% | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:20 <udono> cheche: the percentages are used for partial payings. better use for the beginning: remainder 0 days, Net days | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:21 <cheche> ok. diferent ERP use diferent way to achive the same. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:21 <udono> cheche: did the party have account_payable and account_receivable setup? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:22 <udono> cheche: also in tab accounting | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:23 <cheche> ok. I am creating a new database with all your steps... sorry if I am a vbit slow. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:24 <udono> cheche: o need for a new database... but if you like. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:25 <cheche> udono: thanks, But mostly I want to documented what is supposed to be the correct procedure | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:26 <cheche> creating a user is a must? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:27 <udono> cheche: yes | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:28 <udono> cheche: Great when you document the first install procedure for creating an invoice in Tryton ! | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:30 <udono> cheche: applying a company and a chart of accounts and the default accounts in the first install wizard is also highly recommended | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:32 <cheche> ok. just one question when create an invoice what is the account Main cash? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:33 <udono> cheche: where to find? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:34 <udono> cheche: main cash is the account of your bank or cash book for payments. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:34 <cheche> Financial M > New Invoice | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:35 <udono> cheche: you mean on tab Other Info, Account | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:35 <udono> ? | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:36 <cheche> on Invoice Line for each product you have an account | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:38 <udono> cheche: ah, ok. Here you put main Revenue | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:39 <udono> ACTION hopefully | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:39 <cheche> udono: ok, is just that looks odd | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:40 <cheche> I think that on the first setup wizard the fiscal years should be added. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:41 <cheche> ok. I am going to get a break... come back later. | ||
| 2010-04-06 14:41 <udono> cheche: see you | ||
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| 2010-04-06 15:28 <cheche> What is the meaning of: The debit account on journal is missing! | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:29 <cheche> Do I need to create a debit account? | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:35 <udono> cheche: journal is Revenue? | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:39 <cheche> How do I find out? I can click on journal an 4 types of journals are created. Cash; Expense; Revenue ; Stock; | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:40 <cheche> Finantial M> Configuration> Journals | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:41 <cheche> I get this error when I am trying to get an invoice pay I select Cash as the payment | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:43 <cheche> But I have not define any Default credit account of Default debit Account | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:43 <cheche> But I have not define any Default credit account of Default debit Account on the Type of Payment | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:51 <udono> cheche: so you can post an invoice? | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:51 <udono> cheche: the problem coms on pay invoice? | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:57 <cheche> udono: the problem comes on pay invoice.. To fixed I need to go to open the Cash Journal and select Default credit account | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:58 <cheche> What should be the right value on Default credit account? | ||
| 2010-04-06 15:58 <udono> cheche: yes, I understand. Our rule of thumb is to have for each bank account or petty cash you use, creating an own cash journal with own default accounts. | ||
| 2010-04-06 16:00 <cheche> so I need to create another Journal for Cash/Bank account right? | ||
| 2010-04-06 16:01 <udono> cheche: yes, this would be good | ||
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| 2010-04-06 17:24 <cheche> The only way of translate invoice.odt is modifing that file right? | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:41 <udono> cheche: no | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:42 <udono> cheche: try to play with the language of your customer party, and create a new invoice with him | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:42 <udono> cheche: tryton has a very sophisticated translation process for reports. | ||
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| 2010-04-06 17:44 <udono> cheche: spanish language is already included in the report translation. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:44 <cheche> udono: ok. Learning right now.. What is the meaing of invoice on the party form? | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:44 <udono> cheche: "of invoice on the party form" has no meaning ;-) | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:45 <udono> cheche: ah, ic | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:45 <udono> cheche: it has a meaning: an adress marked with invoice will be used as invoice adress | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:45 <cheche> ahhhhhhhhh | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:45 <cheche> ok | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:46 <cheche> got it | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:46 <udono> cheche: but try out the language selector below and create a new invoice or print a draft invoice. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:47 <cheche> strange wording anyway. you have as well on addresses:" Set to default value; Set as default; " a bit misleading | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:48 <udono> cheche: this is explained in the client doc | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:49 <udono> /is/should be/ | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:49 <cheche> udono: sorry about that... I am asking too much. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:50 <cheche> http://casa.apertus.es/blog/2010/04/06/primera-factura-con-tryton/ is not finished yet.. but close.. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:50 <cheche> is in spanish sorry.... | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:50 <udono> cheche: having the sam in german language :-) | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:51 <udono> cheche: after release we could try to put our stuff together in english language. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:51 <cheche> sure!, I mean, I can write in english that page as well, but creating the images is a bit tedious. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:52 <udono> cheche: you can set user side defaults for all fields in forms. So "set as default" set the actual content of a field as a default for this fild in further use. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:52 <cheche> plus, I am only trying to test this software for basic usage | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:52 <udono> cheche: yeah, no problem. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:53 <cheche> udono: thanks for the tip there... Well I think that "invoice" need to be expanded for people to understant | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:53 <udono> Set to 'default value' can be used when you have put other contents to a field and want to re-set the default value. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:54 <udono> cheche: yes, we need a lot of tooltips | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:55 <cheche> udono: do you think that i can open a bug for this?, I think that only expand it to "use for invoice" should be enough | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:57 <cheche> udono: still not able to see the invoice in spanish... | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:57 <udono> cheche: Iam unsure. As a field name I find invoice enough. As a tool tip it could be 'Mark this address as the invoice address' | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:57 <udono> cheche: did you create a new invoice? | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:58 <udono> it must be in state draft. | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:58 <udono> cheche: an already posted or paied invoice will not be changing | ||
| 2010-04-06 17:59 <cheche> udono: well, somehow I need the invoice to be in spanish.. I want to print something that makes sense to customers :) | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:00 <udono> cheche: It is no problem in Tryton. Iam very sure it works, since I used it last week on the open Expo exibition. | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:01 <udono> cheche: what is your language you use in tryton? | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:01 <cheche> Español | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:01 <cheche> (Spanish) | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:02 <udono> cheche: and the client shows everything in spanish? | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:02 <cheche> well, I have change so I can explain to you the names.. maybe I need to logout | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:02 <cheche> yes... | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:02 <udono> cheche: which language you choose at database creation? | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:03 <cheche> pufff..... not sure... I have create a few data bases... | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:03 <cheche> Spanish... is on the image on the blog.. | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:03 <udono> Check Administration > localisation > languages. Spanish need to have set the translatable flag. | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:04 <cheche> yes, it has | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:05 <udono> cheche: looks spanish to me | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:05 <cheche> ok... maybe I have screw up somehow... hold on | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:06 <udono> cheche: choose on the party language español, save the party and try to create a new invoice. | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:07 <udono> cheche: other possibility is that you need to start Administration > localisation > Set report translations | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:08 <cheche> The party did not have any language... | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:09 <udono> cheche: on party, tab 'general' there is a selection 'idioma' | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:10 <udono> in spanish language... | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:13 <udono> cheche: afk bbl | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:16 <cheche> udono: ? | ||
| 2010-04-06 18:18 <cheche> udono: looks like is working now the invoice in spanish | ||
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| 2010-04-06 18:31 <cheche> jeje, is on google: http://www.google.com/search?q=factura+tryton | ||
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| 2010-04-06 18:35 <udono> cheche: that's quick | ||
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| 2010-04-06 20:31 <cheche> how do you import products/invoices on tryton? | ||
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| 2010-04-06 23:55 <cheche> carlos: I have sent you an email... | ||
| 2010-04-06 23:56 <cheche> what is the right procedure to change the invoice document, It looks a bit basic. |
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